Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
Considering SA is far worse now than it was then, how can you say that Mandela did anything good for the country, or the people of the country, or the world?

Oh, whites were oppressing blacks there? Evidently with good reason. How can you argue against that? Their actions to keep a lid on this behavior have been retroactively proven justified. If you can't behave civilized, then you deserve to be treated like a second class citizen. And that goes for any skin color, anywhere.

And if you can't behave civilized, and you can't stand being treated like a second class citizen, and you start blowing stuff up to get your way, you are a terrorist. You're not a freedom fighter.
Historically, white colonists in Africa (see: Rhodesia, South Africa, and Zambia) have been subjected to pretty harsh treatment and oppression. I would classify some of the events that happened to Rhodesians as near-genocidal. Of the South African contractors (one actually identified himself as Rhodesian) I met in Afghanistan, the general consensus was "South Africa was a safer and more productive place before Mandela took control."