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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBob View Post
    Well dang if this doesn't sound kinda like discrimination against us old farts.
    It's the common denominator when there is nothing someone has for a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    There was a great guest on the Mandy Connell show this morning (well, guest host, but that time block). He said he was a gay man and he and his partner had gone to that same baker for a cake for their wedding. He said the baker didn't say no, but that he was very clearly uncomfortable with the whole situation, thus the two partners went elsewhere. The guest was saying, why would you even want to support someone who didn't agree with your beliefs? He thought the whole issue was just a case of the gays bullying the baker. He had a similar experience at a flower shop and some of the venues they wanted to use, but when they were turned down/saw the discomfort level, they didn't sue the establishments, they went to someone who wanted their business!

    That guest had a lot of good common sense.
    This is kind of what I was getting at before.
    I seriously do not understand insisting on going where your business is not wanted.

    There are two parts to this in that the client and supplier will be supporting each other.
    How many other cake-bakers are out there in the world? Enough that you could likely find someone you might actually want to support.
    Even if you force someone to make a cake for you that doesn't want to, now you're helping someone who doesn't agree with you at all stay in business.

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    The original rationale for Congress extending civil rights laws to private business was that a "public accomodation" - like a restaurant or a motel - if it discriminated against minorities impeded their ability to travel and that impacted interstate commerce. Now obviously a state law need not claim a nexus to interstate commerce as they have general police powers that Congress lacks but really, the great "wrong" that is being solved by this is to prevent someone from being denied a decorated cake? Sheesh.
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    Wickard v. Filburn made "interstate commerce" a total joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Wickard v. Filburn made "interstate commerce" a total joke.
    Heart of Atlanta Motel is the case, if memory serves. And it does not really rely on Wickard to that extent, as its based on actual people actually traveling. Hmmm, yep, my memory was right.

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    Update:

    A family owned bakery has been ordered to make wedding cakes for gay couples and guarantee that its staff be given comprehensive training on Colorado’s anti-discrimination laws after the state’s Civil Rights Commission determined the Christian baker violated the law by refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple.

    Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop, in Lakewood, Colorado was directed to change his store policies immediately and force his staff to attend the training sessions. For the next two years, Phillips will also be required to submit quarterly reports to the commission to confirm that he has not turned away customers based on their sexual orientation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clark View Post
    Oh I would be more than happy to make them a cake,,,just use visine for the liquid mix and they will be shitting there pants for 2 days,,,,or there are many more combinations out there that would certainly enhance there wedding day.

    He should have just told them he was booked and does not have time to fill there order by that date instead of turning them down because they like hersheys
    If they do anything to the cake they could easily be paying for a LONG time.
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    He could probably make a fortune with fudge cakes.....
    There's a lot more of us ugly mf'ers out here than there are of you pretty people!

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    Wow, that "punishment" is a bit harsh... Welcome to the United Snakes.

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    Being Black, Hispanic, disabled etc is what one IS.
    Sleeping with a same sex partner is what one DOES.

    Huge difference between the two....


    Why the fuck is it less than 3% of the population that partakes in immoral and perverse behavior is such a player in the world of politics?
    And like the anti gun movement is based on so many lies.
    Look at the Matthew Shepard case. We were told he was killed because he was a pole smoker and it influenced what is very possibly the most sweeping "Hate Crime" laws in the nation.
    All a lie.
    He was a meth head, killed by a couple of meth heads, one of which he had a relationship with because he would not share his party favors with them.


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