RUFKM? Judge orders Colorado Cake Maker to serve gay couples

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

There's an opinion that the word "narrow" is being used to describe the scope of the ruling and not the overwhelming 7-2 win.

I haven't read the whole majority opinion. Many seem to think this is not an affirmation of freedom of religion or association but a rebuke of Phillips' being denied due process in a proceeding that was openly hostile to his religion.

That’s how i’m reading msm articles.

[MED]

WOW...I guess freedom isn't completely dead yet!

[OneGuy67]

There's an opinion that the word "narrow" is being used to describe the scope of the ruling and not the overwhelming 7-2 win.

I haven't read the whole majority opinion. Many seem to think this is not an affirmation of freedom of religion or association but a rebuke of Phillips' being denied due process in a proceeding that was openly hostile to his religion.

Yup! You are correct!

[RblDiver]

There's an opinion that the word "narrow" is being used to describe the scope of the ruling and not the overwhelming 7-2 win.

Bingo. From what I'm reading, it was NOT a ruling that religious freedom trumped the protection for gays, but more a finding of disparate treatment. Gorsuch cited that this was a case where a religious baker refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple, and was found to have discriminated. Meanwhile, separately, a religious man went to 3 bakers and asked them to put an anti-gay statement on a cake, and they refused, but were found NOT to have discriminated. Essentially, the exact same case, just with the roles reversed.

This, the court said, was discriminatory, particularly combined with the public (and never rebuked) statement by the commission of how religion was evil, led to the holocaust, etc.

THAT's what the finding was. That's why it's narrow.

[TFOGGER]

Good.

This will make the snowflakes melt a bit



Let then eat cake......NOT!

[O2HeN2]

There's an opinion that the word "narrow" is being used to describe the scope of the ruling and not the overwhelming 7-2 win.

You're right, but the headline was written for the vast majority of folks who read only headlines. This is by design.

O2

[roberth]

There's an opinion that the word "narrow" is being used to describe the scope of the ruling and not the overwhelming 7-2 win.

I haven't read the whole majority opinion. Many seem to think this is not an affirmation of freedom of religion or association but a rebuke of Phillips' being denied due process in a proceeding that was openly hostile to his religion.

Do you think the enemy will try again under a different disguise?

[CoGirl303]

WOW...I guess freedom isn't completely dead yet!

Just wait till the Muslims start using this ruling to their advantage to discriminate and deny services/goods to Christians and other groups.

The religious right will then be crying foul to high heaven.

Be careful what you wish for...sometimes you just might get it.


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[.455_Hunter]

Just wait till the Muslims start using this ruling to their advantage to discriminate and deny services/goods to Christians and other groups.

The religious right will then be crying foul to high heaven.

Be careful what you wish for...sometimes you just might get it.


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I think an intelligent Christian or Jewish family would understand why an Islamic bakery would not be interested in baking a cake for their specific religious function. If they throw a hissy fit, then they are just as "special" as the two dudes in this case.

[CoGirl303]

I think an intelligent Christian or Jewish family would understand why an Islamic bakery would not be interested in baking a cake for their specific religious function. If they throw a hissy fit, then they are just as "special" as the two dudes in this case.

Think outside a bakery. This could apply to a gas station, an emergency room, a hospital, a tow service, mechanic shop, etc. This ruling isn't inclusive to only a bakery.

This absurd ruling is an open license to discriminate against people simply because they don't believe a certain way.


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