RUFKM? Judge orders Colorado Cake Maker to serve gay couples

[TheGrey]

It's still a limitation on the "right to refuse service." TheGrey seemed to be implying that he had an unfettered right to choose who he does business with and who he does not do business with, but that's not true, at least not for a business that is generally open to the public.

Apologies for the implication; you're right- it does sound like that. My reply to She-who-shall-not-be-named had what I felt like a more important goal: to express that business owners are not slaves to any potential clients that demand a servce tat goes against one's core beliefs.

The pathetic part about this entire debacle between Materpiece Bakery and the Two That Sued is that he thought that his religious beliefs were as protected a class as sexual orientation on a witch hunt.

I always have a reason to turn people away if they set of my Spidey-senses: it never has been about any of the protected classes. I am often booked too far out, don't specialize in was they are seeking, or have no legal recourse. If they're assholes in their demands, I tell them to enunciate for the recording, please- and that I will be letting everyone else in my field know about their demeanor. There's no law against denying someone service because they're a jerk.

And yeah, I'm "she." Not that it really matters here!

[Hummer]

BP already touched on this, but that statute doesn't say you can't refuse business to someone because you think they are an asshole.

I do this daily.

Ha! Some businesses are more equal than others.

There's no law against denying someone service because they're a jerk.

And that's essentially what the Supreme Court ruled on (as well as the blatant hostility by the CCRD for the religious right of the defendant.) The plaintiffs could simply have gone to another baker. Phillips would have sold them anything in his shop but was unwilling to create artwork from his hand that would violate his conscience.

[68Charger]

And yeah, I'm "she." Not that it really matters here!

We'all (yeah, I just made that one up) really appreciate your input here as a woman, we're just going to treat you the same as "one of the guys"... because there shouldn't be multiple standards.

[TheGrey]

We'all (yeah, I just made that one up) really appreciate your input here as a woman, we're just going to treat you the same as "one of the guys"... because there shouldn't be multiple standards.

I truly appreciate that. I am "one of the guys" and don't expect multiple standards. That's the great thing about a forum such as this- there are many voices, many ideas and many levels of experience. Text creates the equality.

[RblDiver]

I haven't formed a full opinion on this overall argument, but how can you utter these two statements, in the same sentence, without considering that perhaps they are related?

Where did I say they weren't related? Think of it like pushing on a car. When the car is at a standstill, it starts very slowly, but as it gets more and more momentum, eventually it will be going at a pretty good pace. At that point, do you really need to keep pushing?

[Irving]

Again, I feel the same way about Unions. I don't understand them at all in today's market, but during the tone of rober barons? Sure.

I feel the same way as you about the disclaimer that companies will hire or sell houses to minorites.

[Gman]

I truly appreciate that. I am "one of the guys" and don't expect multiple standards. That's the great thing about a forum such as this- there are many voices, many ideas and many levels of experience. Text creates the equality.

...and yet your feminine influence to your written word is much appreciated. Glad to have you here.

Again, I feel the same way about Unions. I don't understand them at all in today's market, but during the tone of rober barons? Sure.

I'm the same way. Unions made sense when labor was being endangered to provide for their families. Now that there's govt. protections to prevent this, why are the unions even a thing anymore?

[Irving]

I'm the same way. Unions made sense when labor was being endangered to provide for their families. Now that there's govt. protections to prevent this, why are the unions even a thing anymore?

My take on Unions is that they mostly aren't necessary, until they are. So if they struggle in a free market, that's fine. If some company is so crappy that a force a union, that's fine as well. I've chosen a career path that doesn't require one, so I'm a bit of a chump to even comment on them in the first place (like boycotting a store I already don't go to or isn't where I live). Unions are part of the reason that I didn't enter the trades.

[Irving]

Is someone about to own this website after they win the lawsuit?

[Madeinhb]

Thought I'd share, someone has tried to voice their displeasure with their removal from this site by revealing their bigotry to an extreme. If this continues, I'll be sure to share it all with you folks, so that all users may rest assured that I never act rashly.

This brings us to lesson #4) Don't write things to us you don't intend to be made public.

This has been a highly educational thread. Carry on!

I'm sure we all would like to see this response.


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