RUFKM? Judge orders Colorado Cake Maker to serve gay couples

[ray1970]

Suck a smoke and your a second class citizen.
Suck a c#%k and you are one of the cool kids.

This is one fucked up world......

Lol. Amen, brother Bert. Well said.

[ray1970]

Glad to see you are a second class citizen and not one of the cool kids.

[killianak9]

Suck a smoke and your a second class citizen.
Suck a c#%k and you are one of the cool kids.

This is one fucked up world......

^^^^this !

[merl]

Suck a smoke and your a second class citizen.
Suck a c#%k and you are one of the cool kids.

This is one fucked up world......

And the argument is:
smokers are affecting others so can be limited. (wayyyy overblown but it is the justification)
gays are not affecting anyone so let em be.

One can justify a protected class when there is discrimination to the point of services not being available. That is not even close to the case here.

[lowbeyond]

you can have any justification that you want but the real reason is

FU, I said so now STFU or goto jail

But hey Mala Prohibita laws are fukkin' awesome ! Everyone loves them. Whacha want to live in Somalia ?

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

There is a rumor that these GUYS targeted the shop knowing the owner would not accommodate them.

I just don't understand this, personally. And here is reason #1 and reason #2 why:

Wedding cakes bakers and photographers are, at their sheer essence, artists to at least a certain degree. They are trying to capture the spirit of the couple on their 'big day'.

Never a good idea to piss off your cook.

Are they trying to make a political statement or get a cake?
If I'm forced to make a cake for someone I don't agree with, I'll do it and without the urine/semen/salt/whatever……but I won't bother trying to do a good job on it. I'd explain that I really don't want to do it, but if you insist, these are the terms. Likewise, if I'm a photographer, I'm just going to spray and pray half-assed and not bother cleaning anything up on photoshop later.

I just don't understand why, in any service industry, you'd force someone who doesn't want your business to serve you. I want someone who truly wants to do what I'm looking for.

[Dave_L]

So...can I go to a Muslim restaurant and force them to serve bacon? What other places can I go and force them to do things they don't want to do based on my feelings being hurt?

[MarkCO]

gays are not affecting anyone so let em be.

Apparently the baker in question does not agree with that statement, but I guess this is no longer the America I was born in and our forefathers fought for.

I have had friends who were gay, but they did not force anyone else to agree with their choice, so it did not affect anyone but them. When any group becomes militant and forces the majority to accept minority opinion or choice as "approved", that is not right and that is exactly what is occurring. However, when the majority forces their opinion or choice on the minority, we call that Democracy.

There are many, even some on this forum, that have, or will, switch sides (regardless of topic) to move into the majority when it appears the tide has turned, those people have neither conviction nor integrity and are one type of person the founding fathers warned about.

[MarkCO]

So...can I go to a Muslim restaurant and force them to serve bacon? What other places can I go and force them to do things they don't want to do based on my feelings being hurt?

No because that is not what they serve. If they had a dish only served to Muslims, but not infidels, then you would have a case.

[Great-Kazoo]

I just don't understand this, personally. And here is reason #1 and reason #2 why:






Are they trying to make a political statement or get a cake?
If I'm forced to make a cake for someone I don't agree with, I'll do it and without the urine/semen/salt/whatever……but I won't bother trying to do a good job on it. I'd explain that I really don't want to do it, but if you insist, these are the terms. Likewise, if I'm a photographer, I'm just going to spray and pray half-assed and not bother cleaning anything up on photoshop later.

I just don't understand why, in any service industry, you'd force someone who doesn't want your business to serve you. I want someone who truly wants to do what I'm looking for.

This. The same for business targeted by Jess' rainbow coalition. Its extortion, forcing someone to do something against their will, via the courts.