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    Quote Originally Posted by bigun1962 View Post
    Sights really???? When my recruits can't help but jerk the trigger I take the sights off the gun, mix in some dummie rounds and film them. Sights on a carry gun are near worthelss. If you need sights on your carry gun, you will need cover worse.

    You're out of your damn mind.

    You have to be able to account for the rounds you fired. A good set of sights should be an immediate upgrade to something like a glock.

    Before we start throwing stones, I've gone through a couple of shooting investigations with .gov agencies that tend to look into things when you kill folks. The ability to articulate what the threat was and what I saw when I chose to engage the threat was pretty freaking useful... to put it mildly.

    "I placed the front sight (dot, reticle, etc) on center mass of the target and processed the threat until it was no longer viable."

    Is a whole lot better than

    "I think I was shooting at the threat but I was too busy running for cover to be sure. I never saw any reference to ensure the rounds I fired were impacting the intended target."

    Sighted fire scores hits. Spray and pray (even in CENTCOM AOs but especially CONUS) is just asking for additional scrutiny. This has been well established.

    Please update your TTPs before offering people advice.
    Last edited by Mick-Boy; 12-08-2013 at 13:57. Reason: I'm a non-typing retard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigun1962 View Post
    Sights really???? When my recruits can't help but jerk the trigger I take the sights off the gun, mix in some dummie rounds and film them. Sights on a carry gun are near worthelss. If you need sights on your carry gun, you will need cover worse.
    Very sound advice, maybe I should have Bert remove the sights from my Glock before I continue carrying. Bert how soon can you fit me in, I don't want to be without a carry weapon for to long?......... <sarcasm>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Someone please site a case where this happened or stfu with the speculation.


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    It's been done befo.

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    Im really interested to know how shooting without a point of reference aka sights will improve my chance of winning a gunfight or stopping an assailint. On that note...



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    Without a front sight, what does one look at while pulling the trigger?
    I like sex, drugs and automatic weapons. That's why i'm a dues paying member of the Libertarian party. Struggling to keep the government away from messing with the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earplug View Post
    Without a front sight, what does one look at while pulling the trigger?
    They look at their freedom and then kiss it goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    They look at their freedom and then kiss it goodbye.
    That's the cold hard reality of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    Someone please site a case where this happened or stfu with the speculation.


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    Nothing to cite without doing more research. But this is a good reading of that argument.

    http://www.armedcitizensnetwork.org/...ork_2011-3.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by earplug View Post
    Without a front sight, what does one look at while pulling the trigger?
    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    They look at their freedom and then kiss it goodbye.
    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    That's the cold hard reality of it.
    I'm all for quality equipment and sights. But what if my attacker is on top of me and all I can do is draw and fire from the hip? Where do the sights play in? Am I gonna go to jail for not using my sights?

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