CS Police illegally arrest open carrier ... now have to pay up.

[RblDiver]

Was going to make a joke about packing at a gay pride event but figured that would leave a poor taste.

FIFY

[flan7211]

Glad to hear, frustrating video to watch. Facepalm worthy for those in law enforcement.

[centrarchidae]

I was stopped for speeding a couple of years ago... I deserved it.

(snip)

RWW

How long ago was that? If it was before shall-issue in 2002 or so, I can sort of see it. Once upon a time, a few counties would issue permits that were only valid for the term of the issuing sheriff. And at least one jurisdiction that insisted that the "..protection of persons or property while traveling" only applied under certain circumstances involving a tortured definition of travel.

[CareyH]

I think many would try to see this as a "good faith" exception... Unlikely that they'll really be hammered too hard. More like "We'll settle, educate our officers, and call it fair is fair."

I disagree. Its a double standard. Ignorance of the law is no excuse....unless you are a police officer I guess. I am not cop bashing so don't take it that way, but it seems like more and more frequently the people that are supposed to enforce the law are breaking it with no consequence.

[spqrzilla]

It has always surprised me how often a police officer will wander around just making up statutes out of thin air.

[Shiro]

I was stopped for speeding a couple of years ago... I deserved it.

During the interaction, I disclosed that I had a CCW permit and that my gun was under my driver's seat. I volunteered my CCW permit. The officer instructed me to leave the gun where it was and went back to his car to process my information. When he returned, he informed me that I was lucky he was a nice guy because he could be arresting me for a "weapons violation" because my CCW permit was no good. He said that because it was signed by the previous Sheriff, it was no longer valid. I told him that was ridiculous and that's not the way things worked. He was persistent. I then told him that it's a good thing Colorado law specifically allows me to carry in my car. He told me there was no such law.

He didn't arrest me, but he was confident enough in his assertion that I called a buddy who teaches CCW classes. I also called the Larimer County Sheriff's office to confirm the validity of my permit. In hindsight, I almost wish he would have arrested me! That would have made a helluva story!

I'm far from being a LEO basher, but, as with any profession, there are a few bad apples.

RWW

Just a good example of how often a gun itself is viewed as a violation, without regard for the law.

[Irving]

It has always surprised me how often a police officer will wander around just making up statutes out of thin air.

After all this time, it still surprises you? The one I hear all the time in my profession is, "Well the police officer told me this is a no fault state, so he didn't write a ticket."

The words, "No fault state" should never come out of a police officer's mouth. I'm not sure when police started saying that (probably around 2003 when Colorado changed from PIP to MED PAY), but I really wish they'd stop saying that. Ronin, can you mention that in class sometime?

[NFATrustGuy]

How long ago was that? If it was before shall-issue in 2002 or so, I can sort of see it. Once upon a time, a few counties would issue permits that were only valid for the term of the issuing sheriff. And at least one jurisdiction that insisted that the "..protection of persons or property while traveling" only applied under certain circumstances involving a tortured definition of travel.

Probably right at 2 years ago. Justin Smith was in office because the issue in the police officer's mind was that Sheriff Alderden (sp?) was the one who signed my permit. It was definitely AFTER shall-issue.

The Loveland Police Officer was definitely wrong and I should have made a bigger deal out of it if for no other reason than saving someone else from being hassled by the same guy. The Loveland Police Dept. got their collective pee pee slapped a few years prior to my incident when they mishandled and arrested a guy who was open-carrying. They paid a settlement and I would have thought that they would have made it a point to be better informed. Obviously not.

[Irving]

The Loveland Police Dept. got their collective pee pee slapped a few years prior to my incident when they mishandled and arrested a guy who was open-carrying. They paid a settlement and I would have thought that they would have made it a point to be better informed. Obviously not.

Well, it's a No-fault state, so you know...

[Jim B]

Good guy wins!

And the taxpayers lose. (Not saying he shouldn't have gotten the settlement, but that 23 Gs isn't coming out of the cop's salary.)