Nasal pharyngeal airways

[helopitts]

I've noticed that a lot of people are starting to carry advanced first aid kits when at the range or out and about, one of the devices that a lot of these kits has are nasal airways, Here is a video that was put together to help out basic EMS crews in the use of two different types of airways, the latter is the NPA that is in these kits.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=c...&v=Rs9HXCATof8

[asmo]

Never carry a tool that you don't know how to use.

[TheBelly]

Just to piss off my medic, I installed my own NP tube. He was impressed up until he called me a retard.

[Rabid]

Be very careful with this information. Good Samaritan laws get really fuzzy when you perform a medical procedure and do not have the training to do so. Criminal and/or civil actions can be used against you if you do.

[KestrelBike]

Be very careful with this information. Good Samaritan laws get really fuzzy when you perform a medical procedure and do not have the training to do so. Criminal and/or civil actions can be used against you if you do.

Just enough info to get into real trouble with! Yikes medicine (any level) is complicated stuff.

[Irving]

How much trouble can you really get into with an NPA though?

[Rabid]

How much trouble can you really get into with an NPA though?

I do not know but hot coffee sure packs a punch in the courts. To be honest if i let my W-EMT expire there is no way you could get me to do it without a permission on the persons body that needs it. NPA's are simple however it is not as simple as shoving a rubber tube up someones nose. What happens if something went wrong? My problem is people are sue happy and i do not trust the justice system.

[Leapfrogger2]

NPAs and OPAs (and other airway devices) are a tool for trained people. If I'm off duty I'm going to think real hard about giving one to somebody who I don't know and won't die without one. Too many people run around with tools they aren't trained to use.


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[jerrymrc]

NPAs and OPAs (and other airway devices) are a tool for trained people. If I'm off duty I'm going to think real hard about giving one to somebody who I don't know and won't die without one. Too many people run around with tools they aren't trained to use.


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I will agree. Do I have them? sure. Do I carry them in the kit that goes to the range? No. Have I been trained? yes. Have I ever used one on a real person? no.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

I will agree. Do I have them? sure. Do I carry them in the kit that goes to the range? No. Have I been trained? yes. Have I ever used one on a real person? no.

I'd be curious how many folks here have done this.
I was an EMT for all of college, and although this was a long time ago, I never once used one even on 911/fire calls. Never intubated. Never used the defib.
These are some exotic toys we're talking about for a first aid kit. Difficult for me to get excited about this kind of thing when I didn't get to use them even when I wanted to do so.

At this point, I don't even have a CPR card anymore, though.