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    Quote Originally Posted by sellersm View Post
    And this is very close to the root of the issue here. It's all part of the movement to allow evil to triumph and to silence (and eliminate) Believers. Study history and the documentation of communism: 2 of their planks (core tenets) are what? PC and the promotion of sinful behavior (homosexuality, pedophilia, etc.) Any of those things sound familiar? Next thing we'll see is the pedophiles asking for the same 'special rights'.

    This is a very core issue to the future of our nation and the media and the powers behind tptb are sending a very clear & strong message. Are you listening?
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    Believers of what? Jesus said to love everyone like He loves you, and He alone will judge them. And who the hell is promoting pedophilia?
    Christianity teaches to hate the sin, but love the sinner. I saw nothing in Phil Robertson's comments to suggest he believes otherwise. I have gay/lesbian friends, but in no way does this mean that I either approve or accept their choices or lifestyles.

    Without trying to proselytize, you referred to John 15:12 where Jesus said "My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you." but in Mark 12:30-31 he is also quoted as saying "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.” In the second scripture quote, notice which of these commands come first - to love the Lord. Since you brought it up, it's important to note that while Jesus loved everyone, He did not tolerate sin and called sinners out for their actions (consider when he drove out all of the sinners selling things at the Temple.). It's pretty clear where he stood on this. Sin is not acceptable, bit sinmers are to be loved. No man is beyond redemption in the eyes of the Lord.

    Now, "Believers of what?". Actually having any faith in anything not of this world applies, but Christianity seems to be the most repugnant to the left. Why Christianity? I think this has to do with 2 main reasons. First, the teachings or morality and decency tend to obstruct the left's agenda to push a "do what you want" culture. If people are limited in how they behave and what is considered right and what is considered wrong, it makes it more difficult to accept whatever atrocities you want to subject them to. Next, and most importantly, Christianity teaches that there is but one true and all-powerful God and that this God offers everlasting life to anyone for nothing more than willingly accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior - to let Him be your Master. The left knows that you can not serve 2 masters. If you serve God, then you can not serve them. Additionally, if you have no fear of death because you know you'll continue on in the after-life, then what power, what control, can they have over you. If you serve another master and they can't take away your promise of salvation then how can they control you. This, ultimately, is what the left really craves - CONTROL OF US ALL. This desire IS EVIL in its purest form.
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    Christianity teaches to hate the sin, but love the sinner. I saw nothing in Phil Robertson's comments to suggest he believes otherwise. I have gay/lesbian friends, but in no way does this mean that I either approve or accept their choices or lifestyles.

    Without trying to proselytize, you referred to John 15:12 where Jesus said "My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you." but in Mark 12:30-31 he is also quoted as saying "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.” In the second scripture quote, notice which of these commands come first - to love the Lord. Since you brought it up, it's important to note that while Jesus loved everyone, He did not tolerate sin and called sinners out for their actions (consider when he drove out all of the sinners selling things at the Temple.). It's pretty clear where he stood on this. Sin is not acceptable, bit sinmers are to be loved. No man is beyond redemption in the eyes of the Lord.

    Now, "Believers of what?". Actually having any faith in anything not of this world applies, but Christianity seems to be the most repugnant to the left. Why Christianity? I think this has to do with 2 main reasons. First, the teachings or morality and decency tend to obstruct the left's agenda to push a "do what you want" culture. If people are limited in how they behave and what is considered right and what is considered wrong, it makes it more difficult to accept whatever atrocities you want to subject them to. Next, and most importantly, Christianity teaches that there is but one true and all-powerful God and that this God offers everlasting life to anyone for nothing more than willingly accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior - to let Him be your Master. The left knows that you can not serve 2 masters. If you serve God, then you can not serve them. Additionally, if you have no fear of death because you know you'll continue on in the after-life, then what power, what control, can they have over you. If you serve another master and they can't take away your promise of salvation then how can they control you. This, ultimately, is what the left really craves - CONTROL OF US ALL. This desire IS EVIL in its purest form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Christianity teaches to hate the sin, but love the sinner. I saw nothing in Phil Robertson's comments to suggest he believes otherwise. I have gay/lesbian friends, but in no way does this mean that I either approve or accept their choices or lifestyles.

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    Bullseye!

    If you look at the churches that have been infiltrated by Liberalism, this separation has been broken down. They have newspeaked the Bible to mean acceptance of the person is the same as acceptance of his sin. That the sin and sinner are inseparable. And of course, we can't Biblically reject the sinner so we are compelled to accept the sin or we are no longer Christian.

    Which challenges the very concept of salvation--separating man from sin so he may live with the Lord forever.

    Anyone who thinks Liberalism stops with your paycheck is a fool. They need your soul and have no problem with stealing salvation to get it.

    If you are atheist/agnostic, don't worry. They will force their Liberal religion down your throat too. At a philosophical level, they are removing the right all of us have to look at a behavior and say "that's wrong" or "that's right." Right now those behaviors are driven by identities group and PC politics, but as government amasses more power, it will come from the top.

    For example, if you point out the FSA lifestyle is wrong, what happens?

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    I liked what you wrote, Thomas.
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    Well said Thomas.

    Americans are being led to believe that the Judeo-Christian Ethic had no bearing on the success of our Nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. One does not have to be a Christian in order to benefit (at least on the mortal side) from living a life that adopts a code of ethics stated in Commandments 5 through 10. It would be folly for a non-Christian to attempt to force Commandments 1-4 on non-Christians. However, Christianity, in totality, is the religion being excluded from America, and I assert that it started in earnest in the early 1960s. Christians should have no bewilderment as to the why and how this has occurred. The Bible teaches that the heart of man is wicked and seeks folly at the same time Christ's teachings implore Christians to always be ready to give an account for the hope that is within them. The Bible also teaches that Satan is the great accuser and many Christian scholars believe the wealth and prosperity combined with the American Guilt has been a great tool of Satan. American Christians, at the same time the assault on Christianity started, went fortress and tried to cover sin instead of repenting from sin. The teaching to be "in the world, but not of the world" went the way of the Pharisees and legalistic teachings that condemned the sinner, feared the temptation and reduced God to "Sunday only" came into the Christian culture. One could even make the argument that the American Christian church has failed in the battle and stood by while America crumbled around us.

    As for the future, any Biblical scholar, whether a professing Christian or not, will be able to tell you that every nation that attacked God's people (Jews, not Americans), were defeated. Our president is dancing with a Nation that seeks the destruction of Israel. History says that will not go well for Iran, nor the US. A study of Revelations will also reveal strong clues that America is not significant in the end times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    Well said Thomas.

    Americans are being led to believe that the Judeo-Christian Ethic had no bearing on the success of our Nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. One does not have to be a Christian in order to benefit (at least on the mortal side) from living a life that adopts a code of ethics stated in Commandments 5 through 10. It would be folly for a non-Christian to attempt to force Commandments 1-4 on non-Christians. However, Christianity, in totality, is the religion being excluded from America, and I assert that it started in earnest in the early 1960s. Christians should have no bewilderment as to the why and how this has occurred. The Bible teaches that the heart of man is wicked and seeks folly at the same time Christ's teachings implore Christians to always be ready to give an account for the hope that is within them. The Bible also teaches that Satan is the great accuser and many Christian scholars believe the wealth and prosperity combined with the American Guilt has been a great tool of Satan. American Christians, at the same time the assault on Christianity started, went fortress and tried to cover sin instead of repenting from sin. The teaching to be "in the world, but not of the world" went the way of the Pharisees and legalistic teachings that condemned the sinner, feared the temptation and reduced God to "Sunday only" came into the Christian culture. One could even make the argument that the American Christian church has failed in the battle and stood by while America crumbled around us.

    As for the future, any Biblical scholar, whether a professing Christian or not, will be able to tell you that every nation that attacked God's people (Jews, not Americans), were defeated. Our president is dancing with a Nation that seeks the destruction of Israel. History says that will not go well for Iran, nor the US. A study of Revelations will also reveal strong clues that America is not significant in the end times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Mark and Thomas, nail meet hammer.
    We are dealing with a faithless society that has no moral boundaries
    A belief in something bigger than oneself is what has kept this country strong.
    Bert, I do believe MOST Americans still believe in that, "Christian" or not. Some are asleep at the wheel, some have let personal issues cloud their judgement, some are too busy trying to feed their families (they get a pass in my book) and others, unlike Phil Robertson, have chased $ instead of stood on the foundation. Just not sure how to wake up those who are "sleeping" at the wheel. i think Phil woke a few of them up.
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    You said all that really needed to be said ... so I'd say you finished it, not killed it
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