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    What the f*ck is up with these assholes these days. I WANT a car, I don't NEED a car. I've been looking at some cars and I email the dealer from the ad THEY placed on Autotrader, I saw the AVERTISED price and that is why I was intetested. When they email me back and I go look at and drive the car and ask the price it goes up $3-5k. Now none of the cars were at too good to be true prices, they were fair and I thought that they were good starting prices to negotiate. When the price jumps up and I call them on it and walk out they are all surprised. These have been little lots and big dealers, f*ck these guys, seriously are people these days that damned stupid to just go along with it? I hate buying cars, its such a damned pain in the ass.
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    Here's the deal with online car pricing as it applies to pre owned. We all use the same software that shows us all the cars for sale like ours at any given time. This normally creates a race to the bottom as you can show a list of the cars and your price as lowest.

    On the flip side when you have the only one around or miles, colors or options no one else does you raise the price. The market is fluid and car prices don't always go down. I spike prices sometimes to drag out the online lurkers just to initiate contact. We can tell how many people are looking a specific car, where they are and how many times often they are on our site.

    I happen to work for a brand that draws a lot of lookers and dreamers to our inventory, but I also have a pretty solid group of repeat shoppers who just watch my inventory only to give me shit when I raise a price, and if it gets you in the door or on the phone, it worked.

    What kind of vehicle you looking for? Happy to help if I can.
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    Buying a new or used vehicle is one of my least favorite things to do ...ever. I'll go to the dentist twice a month, just don't make me buy a vehicle from a salesman.
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    My least favorite thing is to buy/sell a vehicle. I don't care it is 458 italia, McLaren, or even a SLS AMG.

    Small dealership usually will have everything ready when you email/call them with VIN, Price, Stock#, and etc. However, big dealership are tend to be little unorganized due to high volume of traffic. I've usually dealt with smaller franchise dealership on weekdays. It went real smooth. I would try to avoid those late 70s or early 80s type of operation dealership (dealing doug, some domestic dealerships). They are huge mess.

    IF you had a specific stock number at certain advertised price, but if they do not honor it, I would definitely call the management. IF that does not work, DORA and Lakewood is next step.
    Luckily, ALL the dealership I've been to within 10 years always honor the price of ad and/or lower, but I guess there are still some shady 70s dealerships type of places out there.

    Speaking of dentist and MD's office. I would rather buy 10 cars at a shady dealership than go to dentist or some shady hospital.
    Hospitals are worse than shady attorneys or sales people. At least I know what I will be paying for upfront. Hospital thinks they are monopoly and knows they are selling service which are inelastic. They will do the service and ask 150 premium on some kind of testing which cost fraction in different places.
    No wonder people are going out of country for "medical vacation package" at a discount price for far superior service (from experience).

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    I bought a new car last year. It was easy like Sunday morning.

    i called places and told them that I was going to be at their dealership IF they had the lowest price (on the new car). I had the 5 things that I needed in a new car, and anything else was just extra. I was very upfront about it:

    1. what is your lowest price out the door? All taxes, reg. fees, anything you need, I don't care about how it gets broken up, just give me the price.

    2. here is the lowest price that I've found so far, can you beat it? I'm going to tell everyone else about these prices, so I have no loyalty to any dealership. None. My loyalty is to my pocketbook. If you want my business, have the lowest price. Period.

    3. I'm securing my own financing. No, I don't want you to check what rates you can get me. I want to spend as little time as possible in your dealership.

    4. When I say I'm going to be there, I'm going to be there. I don't fart around with these things. I won't pull your chain, so don't try to play with mine.



    After all that, I got the brand new car that I wanted for a whopping $250 over dealer cost. I spent a total of about 1.5 - 2 hours in the dealership. Most of that time was spent waiting for them to detail the car and remove their dealership logo from it.

    yes, I was a prick, but I got what I want and I didn't have to deal with sales folk who were shady. On a side note, I will not ever buy a vehicle from the VW dealer at the auto plaza in Colorado Springs. Those were the worst kind of sales folk. Then they said, "we'll, that's our bottom price, out the door." Their price was 3k over msrp. Douche-nuggets.
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    I don't mind dealership's. Its a jacked up sort of entertainment for me. I sold for a while and understand what they're trying to do so I just play their game with them. If they want to work payment and can finance through my credit union, that's fine, I'll just work payment harder than they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBelly View Post

    After all that, I got the brand new car that I wanted for a whopping $250 over dealer cost. I spent a total of about 1.5 - 2 hours in the dealership. Most of that time was spent waiting for them to detail the car and remove their dealership logo from it.
    When I sold used cars, the sales manager would go into the system, change the dealer cost, then print the list out with the new number and show the customer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    When I sold used cars, the sales manager would go into the system, change the dealer cost, then print the list out with the new number and show the customer.
    When I sold, we weren't even told the actual price of the vehicle. Everything was mid this or low that.

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    Oh yeah, the sales people weren't usually told the price at all.

    Thebelly: I'm not trying to say you didn't get a good deal. I have no room to talk. I was a puss the last time I bought a car. I got worked over and KNEW it, and still let it happen. I could have just walked out and didn't.
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    last time i was shopping i would Write down the offer and stock number on the back of my business card and hand it to the salesman. I'd wait long enough for a cup of coffee for an answer. After that I was on my way.

    I don't like the let me go talk to my manager routine.

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