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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    While I feel for your position I'll tell you it's unlikely that numbers gonna come. There just isn't that kind of range in a 30k car. A grand, maybe two and you're all in and come January one your trade value drops and the incentive to dig deep on the new car goes away.
    You don't think they can make an easy couple thousand off my truck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    You don't think they can make an easy couple thousand off my truck?
    If they supposedly accept my truck with a trade in value of 7000, I would think selling it for 9000 would be a piece of cake, no work required on their part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    You don't think they can make an easy couple thousand off my truck?
    Doesnt matter, one has nothing to do with another. Internally the New car department is one store and used another. That's what we do, buy a car to make a return. There is also no guarantee your truck will sell at any kind of return so no it doesn't factor. It's like when people trade a car to us and them get bent out of shape when we list the price for more then we paid, duh.

    When I trade for a vehicle I keep the two transactions separate. Here is the price for yours and the price for ours.

    And again not knowing you personally, but knowing you're a pretty good guy on here Im not trying to come across as an ass. That said customers need to learn just because they want it doesn't mean they will get it. There is a profit/return/loss calculation for the dealer to factor in. I've told more people in the last week thanks but no thanks and sent them out the door then I care to count. The entire time them trying to rationalize why I should loose money to sell them a car because it's year end. Sorry doesn't work that way, if your business hasn't made the number by now you aren't going to in the 11th hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    Doesnt matter, one has nothing to do with another. New car department is like one store and used another. That's what we do, buy a car to make a return. There is also no guarantee your truck will sell at any kind of return so no it doesn't factor. It's like when people trade a car to us and them get bent out of shape when we list the price for more then we paid, duh.

    When I trade for a vehicle I keep the two transactions separate. Here is the price for yours and the price for ours.

    And again not knowing you personally, but knowing you're a pretty good guy on here Im not trying to come across as an ass. That said customers need to learn just because they want it doesn't mean they will get it. There is a profit/return/loss calculation for the dealer to factor in. I've told more people in the last week thanks but no thanks and sent them out the door then I care to count. The entire time them trying to rationalize why I should loss money to sell them a car because it's year end. Sorry doesn't work that way, if your business hasn't made the number by now you aren't going to in the 11th hour.
    Thanks for the honest replies, I really do appreciate it.

    Knowing that new and used are basically treated as separates, it makes a lot more sense. Would I be wiser then to just buy from them at their "New" price and worry about selling my truck separately?
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    I think I'm going to take my silverado into carmax tomorrow morning since I took the day off from work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Thanks for the honest replies, I really do appreciate it.

    Knowing that new and used are basically treated as separates, it makes a lot more sense. Would I be wiser then to just buy from them at their "New" price and worry about selling my truck separately?
    If you want to get closer to the number you're after I'd say yes. Good idea on the carmax visit.
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    Go to the number 2 Nissan dealer in the state. They will give you a better deal on the xterra if they are neck and neck with the #1 dealer. My friend is the sales manager at a #2dealer and they are giving cash referrals and other things to try and take the lead.

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    Here are my thoughts and experiences. I purchased my new Jeep Liberty CRD in '06 and sold my Dodge because I didn't think I really needed it after I got out of racing. Was I ever wrong; fortunately, I kept the trailer. I finally replaced my truck last month, and I am so happy to have it back so maybe keeping it and buying a less expensive daily driver is a good idea which is what I do. I spent a ton of money buying that Jeep only to lose it to my x in the divorce; I wanted that year because of the Common Rail Diesel; awesome vehicle but I got a fair deal...not a great deal (I walked out of one dealership and got another $1,000 knocked off the price at another place). I could have saved a good chunk of money if I got the last '05 on the lot but there were a couple of issues on the '05s so I passed. It is the only new car I have purchased, and they really are a luxury. I really doubt that I will ever purchase another new car. The first third of that car is profit for the manufacturer and dealer as well as commission for the sales staff. I have no desire to pay any of these people with my pay check especially the sales staff. Another trick if you are buying from a dealer; don't buy in the same county as your residence unless you feel like contributing to the county tax.

    If you are patient, you can find what you want for a lot less money. In 1996-7, black Trans Ams with the 6 speed were extremely high demand, and I couldn't find one without a huge mark-up. I finally found a '97 after a year of looking with 3600 miles in April of '97 and I saved about 6-7K on it...I still have it. It is a lot easier to make a deal if you break up the sale. Trading in a vehicle is convenient but you lose money big time on it unless the car you are trading is undesirable and extremely difficult to sale. If you don't want the hassle and you perceive a difficult private sale, then trade it and get the tax savings.

    Is your truck a 1500,2500, or 3500? ...which engine? A 5.3 1500 is a lot more difficult to sell then a 2500 with the 6.0. Duramax 2500s and 3500s sell extremely well. When I sold my Dodge, I got $200 more then I paid for it because it was the 2500 with the V10 (before the gas spike). The Dana 60 and 70 in the truck made it desirable to any construction worker or contractor at the time. I had my truck on Craigslist for about a week. Older trucks like a 2001 are generally purchased by construction and trade, but only the 3/4 and 1 tons and they go for a premium. But, to put it in perspective. I spent over a year looking for my new truck, a '01 Dodge Cummins Dually with a Bradford Built bed. I saw these anywhere from 12,500 to 21,000 over the past year and half. I finally got mine for $10,800 with below average miles. I was happy!
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    So Badger how'd ya make out?
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    Carmax isn't a bad gig. When I sold my truck, I took it there first. They gave me what I thought was a lowball offer, but about a month later I ended up selling it private party for the same price they offered. When I went to Carmax, I gave them my keys, the guy there took some info from me, we chitchatted for a few minutes while waiting, and then I got my offer. I told them thanks, but no thanks, and left. It took about 30 minutes.
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