Co Dem introduces a bill defending 2nd amendment rights.

[Rabid]

uhhh read the post I made that you quoted LOL ...

I did. Does it change the fact you even think about taking away peoples rights?

[Bailey Guns]

A democrat talking outta both sides of his/her mouth. What a surprise.

This bill should be titled the "Marijuana Users Protection Act".

Polis is in NO WAY pro 2A. Sorry, nynco...that dog just don't hunt. It never has and it never will. A quick search of his website reveals not a word on gun control. The "On The Issues" website has nothing regarding Polis' stance on gun control. If he was a so-called pro-gun democrat, he'd be advertising it...especially now.

Polis is "pro-gun" like the PETA is "pro-hunting".

[nynco]

I would not go so far to say that he was pro gun. I was more just happy that a Dem was doing something that I felt was pro 2nd Amendment. I agree that the other bill is crap.

Listen right now we have recreational use coming to the whole state. We NEED this bill. No matter whether you are for or against pot it does not matter, the more people that lose their 2nd Amendment rights the worse off we all are. We want more gun owners and shooters so that they become more concerned about this issue. I am sure many of you have changed peoples minds when you took them out shooting. After Jan 1st I am betting 50% of this state may no longer be eligible to own a firearm. Once that becomes accepted in the mind of that many people that they can't own guns... well kiss your rights good bye.

[sniper7]

The legislation is good. It should have been started by a republican to draw pothead support to conservatives. Now a pos gets the credit. I do hope it passes and I hope polis is jobless in 2014.

[Kraven251]

the legislation is a prequel to address the issue of recreational use, that does not require a card, it also just means that people that start buying it recreationally after Jan 1, will just lie on the form like people have for years

The people that went through the steps to get the card, legit need or not, are the ones being punished. I don't honestly give a shit about the legalization or use of mj, but this keeps the mj crowd going to the polls. When they show up to the polls, our way of thinking is at a distinct disadvantage every time.

As for the politician, he is a snake. As for Nynco, his point is valid. The more we make it an us vs. them issue the more we lose. They have the education system; they are a Supreme Court Justice from fucking us; they have the ability to shroud idiocy as fact(even when the numbers do not support it); all the while painting our side of the fence as war mongering, secessionist minded, anti-government, whack jobs. Every shooting big or small they will attempt to hang it around our necks, even when largely the problem has come their side of the mindset.

Anytime these scumbags work to strip themselves and the institution of a bit of power, it is a small chip taken out of the nanny state. Would I vote for him, no way, but I do support the idea.

[Ridge]

2A rights for potheads doesn't mean anything when even private sales require a 4473 now, since that is a federal form, and it's still illegal on a federal level.

[Fentonite]

If those of you that are against Cannabis (MJ) understood how it actually works in the body, you'd understand that it helps mental conditions. In fact mAYBE it could have prevented some of the mass shootings. Please research it before condemning it.

Just More food for thought,

Roger

"How it actually works in the body" is pretty darned complex. More than 400 chemical compounds in varying proportion, and their effect on numerous neurochemical pathways in the body isn't exactly simple to research. Just understanding the neuroanatomy involved would take years of study. I think your blanket statement that "it helps mental conditions" isn't necessarily sound. I'm convinced that it does help some people with their mental (and some physicial) conditions, but it definitely worsens and actually harms others. If it works for you, great, but there is no blanket statement, either for or against it, that can be scientifically made.

Here's some more food for thought, in case you have the munchies: http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/schi...psychosis-link

[wctriumph]

2A rights for potheads doesn't mean anything when even private sales require a 4473 now, since that is a federal form, and it's still illegal on a federal level.

Polis is in Congress. Federal. I support this legislation and the reclassifying of marijuana so that it can removed from the current prohibition. Once it is reclassified that question will no longer be on the 4473. I do not support Jared Polis and I clearly understand his politics and I hope that the republicans will run a qualified replacement for him at election time. I am squarely in support of the second amendment and that is the standard that I use to support any candidate in any election: Is this candidate a friend of the second amendment? No other consideration will I use to rate a candidate. Freedom first, last and always.

[clublights]

I did. Does it change the fact you even think about taking away peoples rights?

Think about taking them away from a limited amount of time while they are on the drugs. just like you can't buy a gun while on a restraining order... or do you think that is not ok also ?


It's food for thought not a real solution . and like i said .. the problem is many take those and never hurt any one.

but that makes a shit load more sense to me then banning semi auto rifles/"Assault Rifles"/Evil Black Guns from EVERYONE.

[Rabid]

Think about taking them away from a limited amount of time while they are on the drugs. just like you can't buy a gun while on a restraining order... or do you think that is not ok also ?


It's food for thought not a real solution . and like i said .. the problem is many take those and never hurt any one.

but that makes a shit load more sense to me then banning semi auto rifles/"Assault Rifles"/Evil Black Guns from EVERYONE.

I would be willing to bet a gun is are more likely to kill then a person on meds is. If any of these meds were that bad more then half of our population would be dead by now. If i used your logic on this subject a UBC, assault rifle and mag bans would make perfect sense, hell, why not just ban guns entirely. Like you i am freaked out by meds, i was thinking about taking Chantix to help myself quit smoking but hell no the side effects scare me too much to proceeded. However i am not about to condemn a section of society that has been handed out drugs like it was popcorn. I can not take away a persons rights because a minute population does harm when influenced by them. We humans want to blame but we have no proof why we are blaming most of the time. Think of it like this, can you blame Viagra for a boner, yes, but can you blame Wellbutrin for a murder, no. There is no scientific proof it does and i bet it helps more then it hurts. We need to bring mental health to the front lines before anything else in figuring out the problems we face. Does that mean i want the FBI/CBI to know your health records, no. If someone trained can pin point a problem i think it should be looked into before suspending someones rights.

My and everyone else's rights are more important then a minute amount of safety, period.