Wanting to start reloading

[Great-Kazoo]

What else do I need...

Powder check system p/n 21044 $68.95 Save the money , put towards another tool head
Extra Powder Die p/n 20064 $11.35
.223 die set p/n 10838 $66.95
9mm die set p/n 14406 $63.95
Small pistol or small rifle case feed plate (whichever you don't order with your case feeder) $38.95
650 maintenance kit p/n 97017 $39.95
Bullet Tray p/n 22214 $41.95
Strong Mount p/n 22052 $45.95 You can make your own. i have an extra already bent.

I don't know if I'd do 2 separate machines for .223 and 9mm. It's really not that tough or time consuming to do a changeover if you've got a separate toolhead complete with powder measure and all the dies set up and ready to roll. I'm a complete newbie and I know I can do it in less than 10 minutes. Can't use 2 machines at one time anyway!

For the dies, I suggest rcbs or any one you have on hand. The dillon dies are nice, but pricey. Instead of another powder drop, crack off and but tool heads for each caliber you're going to reload for. it's more up front, but so much easier once you're up and running.
IF you were going to use different load data / powder measurements, invest in a few unique tech units.
http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/T1231







Unfortunately like guns, reloading is always a work in progress.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Looking at $1,500 total for an XL650 and all the required accessories to do a quick swap from 9mm to .223. I've already "paid for" my RCBS stuff plus some. I wonder how many rounds I'd have to reload to pay for the $1,500 XL650.......

[bobbyfairbanks]

Think about time savings as well

[trlcavscout]

Looking at $1,500 total for an XL650 and all the required accessories to do a quick swap from 9mm to .223. I've already "paid for" my RCBS stuff plus some. I wonder how many rounds I'd have to reload to pay for the $1,500 XL650.......

That's why I changed my mind, to get set up to load 380/9/40/45/44 special would cost a fortune!

I have loaded thousands of rounds in my $120 Lee kit, 1k of 45 and it payed for its self, I am looking at some other options like the Hornady but its not that much cheaper. Tomorrow another Lee and another 1k 45 bullets are landing. If this one works out next month I will order more stuff. I might add a Lee classic turret also but I am not sure.

[Hoser]

650s are good machines until you start reloading 9 and 223 and have a run in with crimped primers.

Get the 1050 (they come standard with a case feeder and dies) and don't look back. Cry once.

[Great-Kazoo]

Looking at $1,500 total for an XL650 and all the required accessories to do a quick swap from 9mm to .223. I've already "paid for" my RCBS stuff plus some. I wonder how many rounds I'd have to reload to pay for the $1,500 XL650.......

Hour number 2 and you'll break even. It's not really about when you break even (OK keep telling myself that) more so the ability to load X rounds, consistently. with less overall labor time. Like my lathe and other tools. breaking even while a part of it, is secondary to ease of access / use.

[Great-Kazoo]

That's why I changed my mind, to get set up to load 380/9/40/45/44 special would cost a fortune!

I have loaded thousands of rounds in my $120 Lee kit, 1k of 45 and it payed for its self, I am looking at some other options like the Hornady but its not that much cheaper. Tomorrow another Lee and another 1k 45 bullets are landing. If this one works out next month I will order more stuff. I might add a Lee classic turret also but I am not sure.

I met a friend of another board member who showed me his reloading set up. 7-8 ? lee s/stage presses. each caliber specific. I was impressed, all that red was kind of weird.

It looked like the red yang, to hosers blue ying presses.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

650s are good machines until you start reloading 9 and 223 and have a run in with crimped primers.

Get the 1050 (they come standard with a case feeder and dies) and don't look back. Cry once.

Right..... But there isn't any way to quick change is there?

Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.

[trlcavscout]

I met a friend of another board member who showed me his reloading set up. 7-8 ? lee s/stage presses. each caliber specific. I was impressed, all that red was kind of weird.

It looked like the red yang, to hosers blue ying presses.

I mixed in a Lee 1k progressive setup for 45. On sale with dies I am still saving money on this next 1k compared to buying store bought ammo. If I like it I will buy one setup for 9mm so I have a SP/LP set up.