Herpin and Rivera to introduce bills repealing mag ban and background check law on Jan. 8

[Hound]

I love that explanation.

[JohnnyDrama]

That's awesome. The best explanation I've seen yet.

[SenHolbert]

I would wonder if some of the Dems might be reluctant to vote Aye/Nay, and just abstain to try and keep a low profile ?
Now that they (the Dems in office) have seen proof that even strongly and traditionally Democratic districts are willing to take action against anti-gun legislators,
and even go to great lengths to mount campaigns to get them successfully recalled, they MAY be afraid to "speak up" against such non-partisan legislation.

When voting to repeal,
one might NOT be surprised at the number of AYEs, but MIGHT BE surprised and the sparse number of Nays and numerous abstentions.

==== FYI ====

In the Colorado legislature, the only opportunity to abstain from a vote is if/when there would be personal financial gain by voting on the measure. Yes, the rules of other legislative bodies apparently allow members to abstain or vote "present." However, that is not the case in the Colorado General Assembly. The options are: Yes, No, Excused, or Absent. In order to be excused, a member must request that in advance from the Majority and Minority Leaders and announce it to the body prior to the excused absence.

Keep in mind that all 65 seats in the House and 18 seats in the Senate are up for election this year. How that might affect voting in committee or on the floor is yet to be seen.

[SenHolbert]

I will also be running a repeal of 13-1224, the "mag ban" bill. Rep. Lori Saine is a prime co-sponsor. That bill will be introduced during late January or early February.

Keep in mind that all 65 seats in the House and 18 of the 35 Senate seats are up for election this year. That may affect voting in committee and on the floor.

Also, for those who might suggest that such bills are run only when they won't pass, please consider that I passed "Constitutional Carry" through the House in 2011 on a vote of 40-25. All 33 Republican Representatives at that time, plus seven Democrats, voted in favor of allowing a law-abiding citizen to carry a handgun concealed without a permit for any purpose other than the commission of a crime. In 2012, I passed "Make My Day Better" (Castle doctrine in the workplace) through the House, also with bi-partisan support. Both of those bills were then killed by the three Democrat members of the Senate "kill committee."

You're entitled to doubt. In this case, however, you are wrong. Such bills will be introduced if/when they could pass both chambers and be signed into law.

[Hound]

RepHolbert

Please continue to introduce the parts of the bill already planned but also include the repeal of HB1043. The others are bad but HB1043 is the worst of them all, passed before any of us knew it was coming as a simple definition change. They changed the definition of a deadly weapon to no longer require intent. This makes it so that assault can easily become assault with a deadly weapon even if no threat was commited or any other infraction of law. I never intended to use my gun when I [input infraction of the law] but since I was in possession, sombody saw it, it was in my truck and I could have gotten it, etc my .... "trespassing" just became "trespassing with a deadly weapon" only because I "could" have used it. This is an add-on to any infraction that could easily make any gun owner suffer under the 'lose your guns for two years' type of penalties. I would hate to have to deal with a domestic distrubance where this card is falsely played. Intent has always been a foundation of gun laws and while it is a high bar to meet in court that was the purpose to not infringe on gun owners 2nd ammendment rights. HB1043 made that bar WAY to low and nobody seems to realize how dangerous it is. If/when they 'come for our guns' this is the law they will use. PLEASE include it in your bill to repeal this and the other laws!!!!!

Thank you

http://legiscan.com/CO/text/HB1043/id/773087

[sniper7]

Keep up the good fight RepHolbert. We appreciate you guys fighting off the disease that is anti-gun democrats. Hopefully we can help you guys out by getting in much better people this year.

[SenHolbert]

[QUOTE=Hound;1475577]RepHolbert

Please continue to introduce the parts of the bill already planned but also include the repeal of HB1043. The others are bad but HB1043 is the worst of them all, passed before any of us knew it was coming as a simple definition change.

….PLEASE include it in your bill to repeal this and the other laws!!!!!

/QUOTE]

A repeal of HB 13-1043 could not be included in the repeal of HB 13-1224. The reason for this is that the subject of each bill was/is not the same. In DC, they have "pork barrel" spending, meaning that odd, unrelated issues and spending are combined in one bill. That doesn't happen in the Colorado legislature because the state Constitution, statute, and rules of the legislature don't allow it. Everything in a bill must fit under a single subject.

That is a very good reason to NOT reduce the five bills per session that each member is allowed to introduce. Those of us who are trying to remove bad laws ought not be limited to a lower number of "good" efforts to offset a larger number of "bad" efforts. While that may not be obvious absent media coverage for such "good" efforts, it is true.

[BPTactical]

Thank you Mr Holbert.

[Brian]

Thank you for your efforts, and thank you for your updates as well.

[Ronin13]

Keep up the good fight Rep Holbert! If we can get 1224 repealed and return to some sort of rationality again, I would be that much happier.