Remember last session when "Everyone was allowed to speak, we never closed debate" ? Top Dem does

[lowbeyond]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2014...-restrictions/

Must have been my imagination last year when i saw someone on this forum being told to GTFO and STFU by the committee chair, along with many more told the same

Oh good thing they let that police chief from Golden Lie his ass off for the record. That was a goddie.

I must be mistaken. Because the progressive jack ass Ferrandino just assured me that i was

REVISIONIST HISTORY: Speaker Ferrandino Tries to Rewrite Last Session’s Testimony Time Restrictions

Another year begins and still no punctuation mark for sarcasm has gone mainstream and we assume Speaker Ferrandino is lamenting the same. How else could he keep a straight face while trying to pass off such bald-face lies he told The Colorado Statesman?

In a preview of this year’s upcoming legislative session, Ferrandino had this to say about the many times the Democrats ignored Coloradans last session:

“House Speaker Mark Ferrandino of Denver scoffed at the idea that Democrats pushed an agenda that ignored constituents in any part of the state.

‘That is hysterical because I don’t remember any time we shut down debate,’ the Denver Democrat said. ‘Everyone was allowed to speak, we never closed debate. Unlike what happened the year before, we limited testimony, but that’s been something that’s happened in this legislature for a very long time and will continue to happen. But everyone had a say.’

‘There’s a difference between having your voices heard and getting your way,’ Ferrandino added. ‘Just because you don’t get your way, doesn’t mean your voice isn’t heard.’” [the Peak emphasis]

As a simple rebuttal here’s a tweet from at-the-time Denver Post reporter Tim Hoover:

Kagan asks all those who were opposed but didn’t get to testify to stand. Practically everyone in room stands up. #coleg #copolitics

— timhoover (@timhoover) February 12, 2013

And, here is what we wrote at the time about the restrictions on testimony time.

Speaker Ferrandino how do you reconcile saying “everyone had a say” with a whole room of people standing, having their time to speak stripped from them? How can you say “doesn’t mean your voice isn’t heard” when literally people from across Colorado came to the dome for a chance to speak and left without saying a word? Where does such self-righteousness arrogance come from to admonish the average Coloradan like they were some petulant child?

Don’t bother trying to answer, these questions were rhetorical; much like when you and your fellow Democrats asked Coloradans, “What do you think about these gun bills?”

[merl]

Saw that same snippet in CO statesman.

So here is a question for you: 5000 people line up to tell you something and you listen to the first 500. Have the voices of those 500 been amplified 10x by the crowd so effectively everyone was heard?

If pressed that is what was meant by "everyone was heard." Not literally heard but point was made. The sheriffs did this well, few speakers but all standing and speaking with that one voice.

Now whether the voices were actually heard over the fascinating angry birds games is open to debate.

[newracer]

When they are not listening you cannot be heard.

[O2HeN2]

The sheriffs did this well, few speakers but all standing and speaking with that one voice.

The sheriffs were forced to do that. They all came to speak, and the Dems rewrote the rules at the last minute and told them that only one could.

O2

[merl]

The sheriffs were forced to do that. They all came to speak, and the Dems rewrote the rules at the last minute and told them that only one could.

O2

Allowing everyone to literally speak their 3 minutes before a vote allows for a citizens filibuster. While an awesome idea I don't know of anywhere that actually allows such a thing.

[Hound]

http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2014...-restrictions/

Must have been my imagination last year when i saw someone on this forum being told to GTFO and STFU by the committee chair, along with many more told the same

Oh good thing they let that police chief from Golden Lie his ass off for the record. That was a goddie.

I must be mistaken. Because the progressive jack ass Ferrandino just assured me that i was

To be clear... That was me that was told to shut up... In two different meetings. Once was upstairs, the other one was in the old Supreme court room. I was first on both lists and protested both times only to be told to go talk to the Republicans, they made out who could talk. The format was setup by the Dems to severely limit all discussion... and it worked. The third meeting was the only one any of us got to speak (I was first on that one too) and that was only because they wanted to have a recess due to Kopel being in another meeting at the same time. There was NOTHING public about those meetings except the public was allowed to attend the ram rodding of those laws down our throats!!!

[Aloha_Shooter]

Yeah, this is the same guy who refuses to even hold a floor debate on Jessica's Law much less put it to a vote. He needs to be sent packing to San Francisco or whereever NAMBLA HQ is.

[Bailey Guns]

He needs to be sent packing to San Francisco or whereever NAMBLA HQ is.

I see what you did there. Clever....

[mindfold]

Yeah, this is the same guy who refuses to even hold a floor debate on Jessica's Law much less put it to a vote. He needs to be sent packing to San Francisco or whereever NAMBLA HQ is.

Huh.....He Looks Nothing LikE MarlonBrando........

[Ronin13]

When they are not listening you cannot be heard.

THIS!