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    Default Friendly reminder about the FFL requirement in the Trading Post

    We just want to remind EVERYONE that when posting a firearm for sale in the Private Party Firearms For Sale forum you MUST add the disclaimer that The transaction needs to be completed through an FFL.

    We are seeing folks getting sloppy and lazy with this and it simply will not be tolerated moving forward. Please, please, please stop making more work for the staff and please follow the site rules as you have all read and acknowledged the site rules. Do not blame us for this you can thank your local .gov for the new laws. This site WILL NOT be shut down because someone else was negligent and didnt follow the rules.

    Absolutely no exceptions. None. Period. I hope you all understand and realize this is not us but unfortunately we have to conform and deal with the new laws until this may be repealed.

    Here are the site rules that you all read and acknowledged in case you forgot them, I am assuming you did actually read them the first time and didnt just post in the thread so you could have access to the trading post.

    https://www.ar-15.co/threads/33477-*...e-Trading-Post

    Thanks again for your understanding and cooperation.

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    Is there a way to systemically add the disclaimer to all ads posted in that section?
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    Don't forget "No Felons", and "Must have driver's license in order to operate a vehicle to drive to the FFL", and "Must not speed on the way to the FFL", and "must not plan bank robbery with me prior to purchase", and whatever other laws you might possibly break in the process of purchasing a firearm.

    Point is, the law is the law. Why does only this law need to be spelled out? We live in a sick society that this website is forced to feel responsible, in any way, if two people decide to break the law. And if they decide to break this law: "The transaction needs to be completed through an FFL." why is that worse, or how is this website any more responsible for maintaining that law, than any of the others they could break?

    I'm not saying this website is wrong for asking people to do this (and I will abide by it, and suggest you do the same), but if there is some legal responsibility, how can you stop there? There are a million laws they could break, and this website would theoretically be legally responsible for each and every one of them if they don't tell the members to add a disclaimer for each of them. Or you could just say "don't break any laws". Or you could say nothing, because not breaking laws should be assumed, as it is each and every second of my daily life, except when I'm on this website evidently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Is there a way to systemically add the disclaimer to all ads posted in that section?

    I'm sure there is, at the same point why do we have to make it easier for someone to sell their wears here. I mean we are already providing the platform, advertising space directly focused to a particular customer base and we do it for free. What's next the site having to pick up xfer fees?

    That's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalmeow View Post
    Don't forget "No Felons", and "Must have driver's license in order to operate a vehicle to drive to the FFL", and "Must not speed on the way to the FFL", and "must not plan bank robbery with me prior to purchase", and whatever other laws you might possibly break in the process of purchasing a firearm.

    Point is, the law is the law. Why does only this law need to be spelled out? We live in a sick society that this website is forced to feel responsible, in any way, if two people decide to break the law. And if they decide to break this law: "The transaction needs to be completed through an FFL." why is that worse, or how is this website any more responsible for maintaining that law, than any of the others they could break?

    I'm not saying this website is wrong for asking people to do this (and I will abide by it, and suggest you do the same), but if there is some legal responsibility, how can you stop there? There are a million laws they could break.


    Plain and and simple that's the site regs. Anyone who doesn't feel like we are doing enough or it's to much of an inconvenience can go to gun broker or any of the other sites that have private sales and conduct their business there.

    Again this is my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazin View Post
    Plain and and simple that's the site regs. Anyone who doesn't feel like we are doing enough or it's to much of an inconvenience can go to gun broker or any of the other sites that have private sales and conduct their business there.

    Again this is my humble opinion.
    Yep, this^^.

    Gereralmeow I understand your concerns but like Mazin stated feel free to go and deal with folks on Armslist. I'm sure your won't have any problems there.

    The fact I have to explain this and defend myself is ridiculous. These are the site rules and they WILL be followed. If a deal goes down and it it goes bad but started here some dem out there will somehow twist it around and say how this site facilitated the sale and now we are responsible for it. Period.

    No one is forcing you to sell here so all we ask is that the very few rules we have in place are honored. Everyone that replied before you(generalmeow) was fine with it but there always has to be one that thinks "rules are stupid"; to bad we will NOT be part of illegal trade here. It would be no different if someone posted up a silencer for general sale. It's illegal, period end of story. There is nothing that we do here knowing that is illegal, so for you to make a comment like that is infuriating. You touched a cord here bud, heed the rules or don't I don't care but you won't last long.

    Yes we can add a line to every post that has this disclaimer to it but then WE are adding this and not the members themselves when they are selling their item.

    I could give give two cramps what you do when your not on the forum and if you want to speed and drive without a license go right ahead that has nothing to do with us.

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