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    Machine Gunner Lurch's Avatar
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    Default Your opinion about a discussion I'm having on FB.

    So I'm having a discussion about all the school shootings on FB and a lot of the people are blaming the ease of access to firearms as the problem.

    My opinion is I would be all for universal background checks if they gave back all the other things they have taken away like the mag capacity ban etc. back. Private sales should have a check just make it easier and cheaper. Also I believe if you own a gun you should lock it up if you have children in the house. If you don't have children they should be locked up when you are not at home.

    What are your opinions?

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    My opinion is you are real quick to give up my rights and impose restrictions, that have absolutely nothing to do with school incidents involving firearms. Also My home is not a gun free zone.
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    Uhmm, no Lurch...

    "Shall Not be Infringed" is pretty damn clear.
    I'm not a fan of Quid Pro Quo, or tit for tat.
    I am sick and tired of our rights, regardless of what they are being used for bargaining chips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Uhmm, no Lurch...

    "Shall Not be Infringed" is pretty damn clear.
    I'm not a fan of Quid Pro Quo, or tit for tat.
    I am sick and tired of our rights, regardless of what they are being used for bargaining chips.
    Sweet Jesus, this.

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    It is not a problem of ease of access to firearms, or anything but a parenting problem. You can't handle your kid? We have a pill for that! Kids have too much energy? We have a pill for that! Start holding the parents accountable for the job that they do. I grew up with every kind of weapon, explosive, and heavy equipment at my disposal. However, if any stupid thoughts came into my head there was the assurance that my old man would quite possibly kill me. I was raised with respect. For my parents, the family name, and myself. Put the blame where it belongs. You wanted that cute baby, then take the responsibility and raise them to be responsible and productive members of society. If you do not the you need to be held accountable. Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDave View Post
    It is not a problem of ease of access to firearms, or anything but a parenting problem. You can't handle your kid? We have a pill for that! Kids have too much energy? We have a pill for that! Start holding the parents accountable for the job that they do. I grew up with every kind of weapon, explosive, and heavy equipment at my disposal. However, if any stupid thoughts came into my head there was the assurance that my old man would quite possibly kill me. I was raised with respect. For my parents, the family name, and myself. Put the blame where it belongs. You wanted that cute baby, then take the responsibility and raise them to be responsible and productive members of society. If you do not the you need to be held accountable. Just my .02
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    I'm not giving up any more of my rights and I want the ones taken from me given back. It changes nothing. People breaking the law intent on hurting and killing are going to do just that.

    what laws are you going to be okay with when some crazed manic drives a truck into the playground at an elementary?
    What laws are you going to be okay with when someone goes on a stabbing spree in a school, or maybe uses a chainsaw?

    what tools are you going to ban? What restrictions on those tools should there be when it comes to purchasing? Are you going to do a background check on everybody buying a chainsaw or a set of knives or a collectible sword? What large vehicles should have restrictions. The bigger they are the more killing power they have.

    what about airplanes, like the guy who crashed a Cessna into the IRS building in I believe California last year or the year before? Should be ban air travel and only allow drones to fly above?

    how deep does the rabbit hole go....
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    America doesn't have a gun problem. It doesn't have a drug problem. It doesn't have a drunk driving problem, an obesity problem, a gang problem or an unwed teenage mothers problem. America has a responsibility problem and until we as a nation can relearn what it is to be a responsible society, no amount of government control will fix our woes.

    And don't give in on UBGCs. That won't do anything but lead to registration. So don't allow people to think that it will solve anything. In fact make sure you go out there and show how UBGCs won't solve the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muddywings View Post
    America doesn't have a gun problem. It doesn't have a drug problem. It doesn't have a drunk driving problem, an obesity problem, a gang problem or an unwed teenage mothers problem. America has a responsibility problem and until we as a nation can relearn what it is to be a responsible society, no amount of government control will fix our woes.

    And don't give in on UBGCs. That won't do anything but lead to registration. So don't allow people to think that it will solve anything. In fact make sure you go out there and show how UBGCs won't solve the problem.
    You are absolutely correct and that is a very good statement.

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    Universal background checks will be used to deny people of their rights for any reason the state sees fit, such as a heart condition that one has to take meds for in order to survive. Another scenario would be for someone whose doctor prescibed them the sleep aide Ambien for a better nights sleep. Even something as minor as a f------ parking/turn signal ticket could be used against you. It will also be used to bring about gun registration. (Just like every communist country in the world)

    There is zero room for compromise in these times or any other times. We have been compromising for decades and where has it lead us too other than more bureaucracy and loss of liberty... As it was stated on post #3 by BPTactical, The Bill of Rights are not to be used as bargaining chips period.
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