Your opinion about a discussion I'm having on FB.

[nynco]

Its all on how you frame them (sales). Silencers when used properly do in fact protect hearing. That is their main function. Which can be stretched to say they are medical in nature as to preserve someones health. Sell the emotional positive and that will win more. I would like to have a suppressor in addition the hearing protection. Because even with my hearing protection it still is not enough sometimes.

[mcjhr]

I agree no more compromises. You don't like my guns, then don't come to my house! And get off my lawn!

[newracer]

Its all on how you frame them (sales). Silencers when used properly do in fact protect hearing. That is their main function. Which can be stretched to say they are medical in nature as to preserve someones health. Sell the emotional positive and that will win more. I would like to have a suppressor in addition the hearing protection. Because even with my hearing protection it still is not enough sometimes.

I agree they can protect hearing but to call them a medical device is just plain wrong, they are an engineering control. I deal with the concepts of engineering controls, administrative controls, and PPE everyday with the work I do.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Absolutely not. Anyone who thinks these kinds of shootings are caused by access rather than lack of moral character (which is a direct result of the education "reforms", societal "changes", and unfounded "hope" of the last 40-50 years) needs a swift kick in the head. If ease of access is the primary factor, why didn't we see these 50-60 years ago or a 100 years ago when the rifles were stored in the closet or hung on the wall?

These kinds of postulations come from pustules who seek a scapegoat for the failures in their social engineering and indoctrination campaigns.

Tell your Facebook "friends" to grow up, read some history (preferably from first hand sources instead of the "progressive" pap they're handing out in schools these days), and learn to think critically.

[spqrzilla]

Sixty years ago, insane people were involuntarily committed to mental hospitals. Since then, we elect them to office. Clayton Cramer has found that almost no states had laws forbidding insane people from possessing firearms before 1968 .... because they didn't need such laws to restrain people who were already locked up in mental hospitals.

[merl]

Let me throw this on the fire: Would you.... agree to all items being off NFA, but you still have to pay the $200/ea fee to buy them?

So silencers, select-fire sears, SBRs (& sbs's/aow) would no longer require CLEO/Trust/Corp paperwork and a 6-11mo wait, you can buy and receive them immediately "over the counter" or online but have to pay a magical $200 fee each time.

The boring alternative is hoping some day, some how, executive and legislative branches are stacked hardcore (R) and 1934 & 68/etc acts get repealed.

Versus what we have now, sure I'd take that. That deal would be all gain no loss for us.

[nynco]

I agree they can protect hearing but to call them a medical device is just plain wrong, they are an engineering control. I deal with the concepts of engineering controls, administrative controls, and PPE everyday with the work I do.

Ok so you are coming at this from a scientific mindset. Sadly facts sell a person on an idea or product about 10% of the time. The rest is emotional appeal or triggers. I don't care how I get to a point as long as I win and winning in this regards will save peoples hearing.

[DavieD55]

Universal background checks will be used to deny people of their rights for any reason the state sees fit, such as a heart condition that one has to take meds for in order to survive. Another scenario would be for someone whose doctor prescibed them the sleep aide Ambien for a better nights sleep. Even something as minor as a f------ parking/turn signal ticket could be used against you. It will also be used to bring about gun registration. (Just like every communist country in the world)

There is zero room for compromise in these times or any other times. We have been compromising for decades and where has it lead us too other than more bureaucracy and loss of liberty... As it was stated on post #3 by BPTactical, The Bill of Rights are not to be used as bargaining chips period.

[Great-Kazoo]

NEVER GIVE UP ----------------------------- NEVER SURRENDER

[cstone]

NEVER GIVE UP ----------------------------- NEVER SURRENDER

By Granthar's Hammer... Do I need a permit for that hammer?