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My opinion.
NO on "gun-free" zones which aren't so gun-free after all now are they
NO on the UBC.
NO on the NFA
Like BPTactical said - shall not be infringed....period. No, nicht, nyet,
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This is so accurate, I'd like to buy you a beer!Originally Posted by muddywings
I don't make the rules. I just think them up and write them down.
a school is a soft target, how many time does this have to happen before we as a country take our security in schools more seriously? I totally agree that parents are not teaching their kids respect, responsibility and a whole slew of other things that have been lost in the way we raise our kids, but the schools are sitting ducks.
the Arapahoe high school shooter entered through a door that routinely gets propped open by students and teachers because the locked entry door is too inconvenient. WTF, I hope claire's parents lawyers have a field day with this one. What does it take to get your attention. Every teacher who allowed this door to be propped open should be fired immediately. Why is there not a system theat tell the official, hey there is a door open that should not be.
Our schools are sitting ducks, we are so damned concerned about security in every f..... country but our own. We need to secure Iraq, Syria, Afg, they all need our help our funding, our military. No where in the constitution have i seen the requirement that we provide for the national defense of every nation on the planet. I have seen the requirement that we provide for our national defense.
If you think that school shootings will stop before we secure the schools you are crazy. Here is an idea, let's stop spending billion fighting wars in places that don't mean crap. War on terror ha, what a joke. If you think that going into Irag, Iran, AFG is going to put a stop to muslim extremists you are again crazy. Unless you kill every last one of them they will be back, They are already back in Iraq and all we have done is stir the pot.
So here is a novel idea, secure the schools and our borders. Every school in Israel is locked down as well as their borders. They get it, They understand it, Bring our military home, place an armed trained veteran, at least one, at every school. use the billions you spend on defending other countries on sensors for our schools. This kid at arapahoe walked through the parking lot and into the building with a shotgun. I highly doubt he had it in his pocket. The security personnel should have put him down before he ever got close to the building.
We give so much lip service to how much our schools need to be secure and have done nothing to change it. We spend billions everywhere, but where it should be spent. We dont have secure schools, we don't have secure borders, we don't have security anywhere it matters and taking guns away from law abiding citizens won't change that.
A back ground check will keep a gun out the criminals hands who is trying to buy a gun legally. How many felons are trying to buy a gun legally? very f...... few tha'ts how many. What will that accomplish as far as school security???? nothing
I don't want to hear about another gun law until we pull our heads out of our butts and secure the building. Let me tell you something, if you think the random kids getting pissed off and going after a bully or two in school is bad, wait until a terrorist decides that a school in this country will be a good target for him. Secure the building period,
Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
Obama, so full of crap it is a miracle Air Force One can even get off the ground,
Well said... Most schools I can guarantee can achieve a 100% survival rate in the event of a fire. Everyone drills for this event (which is very rare) over and over multiple times per year. We've gotten so good that if your kid's school caught fire today, sure you'd be worried, but you wouldn't be in paralyzing fear that they were killed. Now change that to a rare, but we still hear about it, case of a shooting. They have sprinklers to put out the fire, why not have armed teachers to put down the shooter? I agree with the SRO programs many LE agencies have, but one cop in one school may not have the best response time. Have you been in a large high school? If you're on one side, even at a dead sprint it could take 5min just to get to the other side. Meanwhile, 1 in 5 teachers armed could have a much better response time... Just my opinion on it.
And Rockhound, one other thing about laws and background checks- I'm sure you agree, what about those who want to do bad things that have no criminal history? We can't say it enough times and with enough volume: If they haven't been convicted of a crime a background check is 110% useless. If you can pass a BGC, it's impossible to predict that someone with a clean background won't buy a gun, then do bad with it. But those numbers are a fraction of a percent compared to the rest of us who buy guns and DON'T do anything wrong. Again, go figure, punish the law abiding citizens because some democrat lawmaker will "feel better."
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Ease of Access ???
WHAT THE FUCK ?
The ease of access to firearms is the most restricted it has EVER BEEN in the history of the USA.
look back a number of years when you could buy them at any hardware store... or order them shipped to your doorstep or of the back of a magazine.. no back ground checks, no registration no bullshit. just here's your gun.
They have a " bunch" of school shootings back then ?
yeah I didn't think so.
The "ease of access" argument is pure bullshit.
^opinion : i thought this thread could not be any dumber until i read nynco's post
too true.And Rockhound, one other thing about laws and background checks- I'm sure you agree, what about those who want to do bad things that have no criminal history? We can't say it enough times and with enough volume: If they haven't been convicted of a crime a background check is 110% useless. If you can pass a BGC, it's impossible to predict that someone with a clean background won't buy a gun, then do bad with it. But those numbers are a fraction of a percent compared to the rest of us who buy guns and DON'T do anything wrong. Again, go figure, punish the law abiding citizens because some democrat lawmaker will "feel better."
Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
Obama, so full of crap it is a miracle Air Force One can even get off the ground,
Does anyone have a good link to a synopsis of the rights lost in those acts? I am not trying to dispute the loss of rights. I am just trying to learn more.
And what is wrong with my post? Are you taking issue with the world "liberalize"? Because I am referring to the textbook definition of that word which means to open up and left free. I chose that word on purpose to put it into the gun control freaks face.
Last edited by nynco; 01-23-2014 at 21:52.
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