Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
I grew up with mine we crashed bycycles, shot guns, crashed dirt bikes, fished, had dirt clod fights, built forts, played football, etc,etc,etc.
They had chores, they got spanked, they ate what we ate, they were taught respect, they earned their $$, they bought their own cars.
I now have a fantastic grandkid because of my kids "upbrining"

Today you have day care, sitters, nannies, expect the school to raise them, give em $$$, all this in place of being a parent. They don't have time for them now and didn't want to "risk" a carreer by having them when they were younger. So they are so out of touch with them they aren't even in the same world.

Have a friend that had them later in life, they are the most fuked up kids you ever met. He got in a fist fight with one the other night.
I still don't see where age has Anything to do with that. I do all those things with my kids and I'm an old fart?

Age has nothing to do with it, there are just as many screwed up young parents as older ones. Bad parenting is bad parenting, there is no age requirement.