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    The "Godfather" of COAR Great-Kazoo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by J View Post
    Yeah, that doesn't work on many stocks, as the bolts are recessed, unless you cut the stock off first.

    I got it off, but the hard way.

    JB welding a sacrifical wrench in there didn't work.
    EZ-outs didn't work.

    So I started drilling it. For how easily it stripped, the bolt was VERY hard. Some premium metal drill bits hardly put a dent in it. I think the allen socket was really loose, which is why it stripped so easily (yes, I checked, I had the right wrench).

    Trying to drill it out heated enough to start melting the tupperware stock, so I just pulled the bolt through and used vice grips to remove it when I had easy access. Was going to sell the factory stock, but can't now... oh well. I was trying to remove the bolt to put on a new stock, so a quick trip out to get a new bolt, then cut the new bolt to the proper height (it was an odd height), and slap her in the new stock and she is good to go.

    Won't make that mistake again though. A 10 minute project turned to a 3 hour project with 3 trips to the store (1 for JB weld, 1 for EZ outs, and one for a replacement bolt).
    I use left handed drill bits for hard to remove projects. IF a rap with impact screwdriver, or cut allen wrench & hammer doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadAmberg View Post
    Any engineer who creates a device and specifies allen keys should be used, needs to be put up against a wall and shot. They are the devil's handywork.
    Wow, kind of at a loss for words here. Do you have a magic bolt head that will still fit into a counterbore? Firing line sounds a bit extreme...

    J, glad you got that bad boy out. Lots of good advice in this thread so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skullybones View Post
    Wow, kind of at a loss for words here. Do you have a magic bolt head that will still fit into a counterbore? Firing line sounds a bit extreme...

    J, glad you got that bad boy out. Lots of good advice in this thread so far.
    I expect he was alluding to using Torx instead. It really is a thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
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    Quote Originally Posted by brutal View Post
    I expect he was alluding to using Torx instead. It really is a thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
    This is awesome! Cause torx is standard across so many thread pitches... Not to mention under a T10 can be quite difficult to get a good feel without stripping the head. I'm not going to hold my breath for Torx to become the standard.

    Shit, I'll back down now. My newbness is starting to show... I'll end with one hint. Buy Bondhus allen keys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    Can you drive a Torx bit into it and get enough bite to back it out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skullybones View Post
    This is awesome! Cause torx is standard across so many thread pitches... Not to mention under a T10 can be quite difficult to get a good feel without stripping the head. I'm not going to hold my breath for Torx to become the standard.

    Shit, I'll back down now. My newbness is starting to show... I'll end with one hint. Buy Bondhus allen keys.

    Bondhus is the only way to go for allen & torx . A few tool places sell their own labeled stuff, that's bondhus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Bondhus is the only way to go for allen & torx . A few tool places sell their own labeled stuff, that's bondhus
    I am also a fan of the Wiha drivers. I have a set like this at work and love it. Not cheap but very good.Click image for larger version. 

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