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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    Danimal, if you've got ITunes, look up the podcast "Common Sense" with Dan Carlin. Binney did an interview on there a couple of months ago that was really eye opening in a concerning sort of way.
    Nice, thanks M-B. 20131127 1hr long MP3 available to download for free:
    http://www.dancarlin.com//disp.php/c...ward%20Snowden
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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    Nice, thanks M-B. 20131127 1hr long MP3 available to download for free:
    http://www.dancarlin.com//disp.php/c...ward%20Snowden
    Thank you Mick-Boy. Thank you KestrelBike. This is worthwhile information. Danimal, i do not remember this at all either.

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    The technical data that Snowden released is all 5+ years old. Stuff is marked obsolete replaced by X with no details on X. The things I've seen for specific tech are focused on TEMPEST which dates back to the 80s, actual physical bugs (though more for computers now, embedded in VGA cables), and backdoors into computers that can survive reboot/wipes. The spy tech being disclosed is nothing new, just proof.

    The phone data is just the tip of the iceberg. It just happened to get released first and is something everyone can understand.
    how about tracking cell location
    how about internet use, email, text messages, finances, phone apps

    It has become clear that the NSA (and probably other agencies) are into wholesale tracking of everything everyone does. If that is not big brother I don't know what is. This was long suspected and needed to be confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KestrelBike View Post
    Nice, thanks M-B. 20131127 1hr long MP3 available to download for free:
    http://www.dancarlin.com//disp.php/c...ward%20Snowden
    Thanks for linking that. It was a great listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    The only traitors in this are those that are going against established US law and the Constitution ... not Snowden...
    Agreed.

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    Sorry, late to the party. Just watched the video- interesting to say the least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Contrary to John Cusack's Grosse Pointe Blank, the NSA doesn't have assassins running around shooting leakers. Hell, I think most of the geeks there don't know much about firearms beyond what they see in videogames.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    Federal whistle blower protections don't seem to apply if you're blowing the whistle on the Federal Government.
    See first quote and believe what you will.
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    The federal government doesn't need to send hitmen after you. They can send SWAT teams to your house. They can tie you up in court with various charges and lawsuits. They can black list you for work in your field.

    Again, listen to the interview with Mr. Binney. There are people that went down the road of "whistle blowing" in the traditional sense. It didn't work out well for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    The federal government doesn't need to send hitmen after you. They can send SWAT teams to your house. They can tie you up in court with various charges and lawsuits. They can black list you for work in your field.

    Again, listen to the interview with Mr. Binney. There are people that went down the road of "whistle blowing" in the traditional sense. It didn't work out well for them.
    http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/cs...istle)(Blowing

    I will have to listen to it later.
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