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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    I wasn't really arguing as much as making some other points, including the point that there is no national language and this was brought up by our forefathers and discussed. Although it was in English, they had some reasoning as to not make English our national language. Mind you, German was a consideration of a national language as well.

    But I'm not sure why someone can't be patriotic and love this country in another language. I think we as a nation give too much appeasement to immigrants, other languages, and other cultures that come here and refuse to adapt to ours at all. But, having some common sense in this, if we forced a complete surrender of other cultures what would we have left? Certainly not my family's spaghetti sauce recipe. My grandparents came here from Italy and loved this country very much as to volunteer during a major war. Almost every capable male that was of age fought in World War Two from my Italian side.

    Again, I'm just pointing out that people bring cultures together to make our country great. The greater problem is the appeasement when immigrants demand certain things to be changed purely to benefit their culture, whereas my Italian relatives adapted to the change and kept the parts that they wanted to. They even spoke Italian at home and some of the older family members couldn't speak English at all.

    I think there is a lot more of a problem than allowing people to speak a different language in country that has no national language.

    ETA: Also, I want to point out that at I am contacting FT. Collins HS to tell them I don't agree with them and I encourage everyone to do the same. My point all along is that we should be Americans, but that doesn't mean that you have to give up who you are.
    When did I say you have to give up who you are? Were you singing America the Beautiful in your native tongue in your home country? Not likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    When did I say you have to give up who you are? Were you singing America the Beautiful in your native tongue in your home country? Not likely.
    Okay, we are obviously not getting anywhere. I did not say that I spoke Italian and if I sang at all I would sing it in my Native tongue, which is how we are communicating now. I was born here in the US and my family's first and only language at this point is English. I was only trying to point out that when my extended family came here they did not all speak English. I wasn't trying to get into a major debate only point out a few other aspects. You are obviously very upset about the non-English Coke commercial and I definitely see your point. I am just not offended. I personally think you are upset at the wrong thing and I am willing to bet that we are in more agreement than you realize.

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    KevDen, Jers points are similar to most of our reactions to "common sense gun control regulations". Little bites on our freedoms until the whole 2A is meaningless and we all look around and say "How we get here?" Or " I just hunt why does someone need an AR? No one needs to be armed that is what the police are for" and on and on.

    We see how the little steps have progressed in states like NY and CA and did not want CO going anywhere close to that, the same is true for political correctness especially in our schools. This double talk sticks out and needs to be resoundly bitch slapped back like we did with 3 out of work Dems.

    I agree with other posters the kids should organize over social media and show 'Merica in the positive light and the beacon to the world. God these are the times I wished I had kids of my own. Hope someone here has kids in that school and can keep us posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiCO View Post
    KevDen, Jers points are similar to most of our reactions to "common sense gun control regulations". Little bites on our freedoms until the whole 2A is meaningless and we all look around and say "How we get here?" Or " I just hunt why does someone need an AR? No one needs to be armed that is what the police are for" and on and on.

    We see how the little steps have progressed in states like NY and CA and did not want CO going anywhere close to that, the same is true for political correctness especially in our schools. This double talk sticks out and needs to be resoundly bitch slapped back like we did with 3 out of work Dems.

    I agree with other posters the kids should organize over social media and show 'Merica in the positive light and the beacon to the world. God these are the times I wished I had kids of my own. Hope someone here has kids in that school and can keep us posted.

    I am not disagreeing with you. All I am saying is, what I gathered from the video, and others, is that being white and American are one in the same and I don't think it has to be that way. I do believe in reverse racism, and I do believe that our government often turns our cultures against one another. And I do believe that political correctness is bad and will destroy this country. All I wanted to do was bring up instances in which peoples from other nations came here to be patriotic and they did not speak the native language. They have been doing for hundreds of years now, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    All I wanted to do was bring up instances in which peoples from other nations came here to be patriotic and they did not speak the native language.
    Doesn't really have much if anything to do with the thread topic or the indoctrination example I brought up in support of the topic. Not knowing a language of a country you plan to reside in the second you set foot on it's soil is understandable and not in question. A major corporation advertising alleged diversity by having a song we consider a national treasure sung in languages other than ours is upsetting for those who consider themselves American that are tired of English being considered more and more of an option to being an American. If I hated this country so much that I felt France was the best bet for a life of opportunity I sure as hell wouldn't arrive and show my thanks by singing their songs of nationalism in English. I'd at least learn to sing those songs in the native tongue as I learned the language in general. I'm not asking for anything I wouldn't do myself because, after all, that's a HUGE part of becoming a citizen of that nation. If I expect them to bend their nation to me language and way of life then why did I leave the US to begin with? I feel like we're going round and round over the same things here and it's not really on topic so I'll just agree to disagree if you can't understand how anything I'm saying is a reasonable expectation of those who wish to be a part of our great society.
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