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    Default Chance to buy a "looks new" Marlin 1895

    I know I just asked you all what I should buy, and this wasn't on the list, but I have a chance to buy a Marlin 1895 45-70. Basically a buddy who bought it for $400 to help a friend out who needed money. But he doesn't want it. Said he'd sell it to me for $500. Do I do it? I don't know very much about them other than they can take down just about anything closer than 100 yards.
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    First off, maybe you should not buy it based off the fact that he does NOT sound like a "Buddy," if he bought it for $400 and offered to sell it to you for $500.


    Am I the only one that finds that odd?


    It depends on what the Marlin 1895 looks like, most run $500 - $700 new. They are a good gun and the 45-70 is a big kicker, good camping rifle. I had one I inherited but stupidly sold it cause I was not big into lever action, now I regret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    First off, maybe you should not buy it based off the fact that he does NOT sound like a "Buddy," if he bought it for $400 and offered to sell it to you for $500.


    Am I the only one that finds that odd?


    It depends on what the Marlin 1895 looks like, most run $500 - $700 new. They are a good gun and the 45-70 is a big kicker, good camping rifle. I had one I inherited but stupidly sold it cause I was not big into lever action, now I regret it.
    Let me rephrase that. I offered $500 because I know he wont get rid of it for $400 or $450, he'd rather keep it for that. $500 is a good enough profit for him.

    And this thing literally looks brand new. Not a scratch or anything. Looks just like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drift_g35 View Post
    Let me rephrase that. I offered $500 because I know he wont get rid of it for $400 or $450, he'd rather keep it for that. $500 is a good enough profit for him.

    And this thing literally looks brand new. Not a scratch or anything. Looks just like this.
    If it is your fault for the $100 profit then it is your bed, you lay in it.

    (Just giving you grief.)

    Yes they are a good gun, if it looks like new then better the deal. Again 45-70 is pretty potent, small and light, a good camping, truck, backpacking rifle, take down a bear if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    First off, maybe you should not buy it based off the fact that he does NOT sound like a "Buddy," if he bought it for $400 and offered to sell it to you for $500.


    Am I the only one that finds that odd?


    It depends on what the Marlin 1895 looks like, most run $500 - $700 new. They are a good gun and the 45-70 is a big kicker, good camping rifle. I had one I inherited but stupidly sold it cause I was not big into lever action, now I regret it.
    So if he got it free as a gift or heirloom should he be forced to give it to you for free as well? Just curious how far this 'good friend' thing goes. What if he paid MORE than market value, should you... as a good friend... be forced to pay over market value to bail your friend out of a bad deal he made? I never understood why some got their jimmies ruffled over what the previous owner paid. Starting to sound an awful lot more like socialism than capitalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    So if he got it free as a gift or heirloom should he be forced to give it to you for free as well? Just curious how far this 'good friend' thing goes. What if he paid MORE than market value, should you... as a good friend... be forced to pay over market value to bail your friend out of a bad deal he made? I never understood why some got their jimmies ruffled over what the previous owner paid. Starting to sound an awful lot more like socialism than capitalism.
    No socialism about it, I was not referring to the money/value aspect.

    It all depends on what you consider the term "Buddy" is in the friendship level meter, everyone's gauge is different for that term.

    For example; someone I have know for years as an "acquaintance" tells me he paid $400 for it to help another friend out, but then offers to it to me for $500, shows me where I stand with that person, but it depends on the item in question if I consider the purchase or not and I would not be too offended.

    Next example: A long time personal close friend were to do that I definitely would have to re-evaluate the close friendship thing status and feel a little hurt.

    In the way the OP made the first post I read it as "His Buddy" helped another buddy out in a $$ situation then turned around offered it to him for $500, $100 profit, didn't sound very "Buddy" like to me.

    The OP clarified that "He" was the one who offered the extra $100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    No socialism about it, I was not referring to the money/value aspect.

    It all depends on what you consider the term "Buddy" is in the friendship level meter, everyone's gauge is different for that term.

    For example; someone I have know for years as an "acquaintance" tells me he paid $400 for it to help another friend out, but then offers to it to me for $500, shows me where I stand with that person, but it depends on the item in question if I consider the purchase or not and I would not be too offended.

    Next example: A long time personal close friend were to do that I definitely would have to re-evaluate the close friendship thing status and feel a little hurt.

    In the way the OP made the first post I read it as "His Buddy" helped another buddy out in a $$ situation then turned around offered it to him for $500, $100 profit, didn't sound very "Buddy" like to me.

    The OP clarified that "He" was the one who offered the extra $100.
    The socialism reference was a bit facetious on my part but you get the point. His idea of 'buddy' does come into play but much like I said before even if he's a good buddy there's a flip side to that coin which is why what is paid for something by one individual should not come into account when that individual sells it to someone else. Anyone else. That flip side is if you have a good buddy who receives a bunch of firearms from a relative who has passed away. Knowing this he offers you one that he decides he doesn't want to keep. Should you expect this to be given to you for free since he received it free or would you pay market or near market value? After all, you are a good buddy, right? Something a good buddy does is they don't take advantage of another buddy with knowledge they have gained in order to get ahead. If he wants to offer it to you for less than market than that's one thing but EXPECTING that is just as bad as trying to make money off your buddies IMO. So in this instance if the buddy didn't pay $400 and he received it for free would you feel 'shafted' if he offered it to you for $100 even though it was worth $400-$500? Seems pretty unreasonable to do such a thing to a good friend yet he's 'making' the same $100 off of you. Things start to get complex and this is exactly why I try to avoid selling items to good buddies because in the end it never helps a friendship and if I do it's market value or ever-so-slightly less and my buddy usually doesn't mind paying it if it's something he wants as he would pay that or slightly more elsewhere. None of my friends expect a free ride nor do they expect to gain position on my back and those are the types of friends I keep. Maybe you're different but that's my take on the subject and to me seems the fairest way taking all things into consideration.

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    It reminds me of people who sell a gun for an asking price and they're happy when it sells at that price. But they get all bent when the next guy turns around and sells it for more $$. Once you sell the gun, it's a done deal. What happens after that isn't the original seller's concern.
    Also a good point. Once you sell an item you relinquish ALL rights to that item. If they sell it for more that shouldn't mean anything to you and you shouldn't expect anything or be angry of they sell it for more just like if they have to take a loss they shouldn't expect you to show up with money to span the gap. All sales are final and both parties agreed to the terms which were stated originally and that's the end of their transaction in it's entirety as it applies to that item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    So if he got it free as a gift or heirloom should he be forced to give it to you for free as well? Just curious how far this 'good friend' thing goes. What if he paid MORE than market value, should you... as a good friend... be forced to pay over market value to bail your friend out of a bad deal he made? I never understood why some got their jimmies ruffled over what the previous owner paid. Starting to sound an awful lot more like socialism than capitalism.
    It reminds me of people who sell a gun for an asking price and they're happy when it sells at that price. But they get all bent when the next guy turns around and sells it for more $$. Once you sell the gun, it's a done deal. What happens after that isn't the original seller's concern.
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    Do it. 45-70 is fun.

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    Am I looking at an avg of $1.50 a round? Thats all I am finding online but some of these sites have russian 223 for $.90 a round.
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