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    Like other have stated if a New Haven gun buy NOW. I would pass on the newer Remington rifles.
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    Oddly enough, my "remlin" gun, the 1895 guidegun that Remington made, actually feeds better than the other one I have that was made in New Haven. I've only taken my 1895GS out once, with handloads of H322, WLR primers, and 405 cast bullets. Beat the holy snot out of me, couldn't really tell on accuracy, as a result. Reloder 7 is a favorite for the 45/70, and I've had decent accuracy with it. I'll try the trailboss next time, lil less than factory load power. My other gun, I have the XS ghost ring peep sights, it shoots decent.
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    I had a Marlin 1895 Cowboy in .45-70. Kicked pretty hard but was accurate and I loved the look and feel. Had to sell it when times were tough and I would get another 1895 Cowboy if I could ($$).
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    45-70 has amazing penetration. If you want to roll your own, casting your own bullets is pretty easy.

    I looked at the Guide Gun, but would probably go for a longer barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    So if he got it free as a gift or heirloom should he be forced to give it to you for free as well? Just curious how far this 'good friend' thing goes. What if he paid MORE than market value, should you... as a good friend... be forced to pay over market value to bail your friend out of a bad deal he made? I never understood why some got their jimmies ruffled over what the previous owner paid. Starting to sound an awful lot more like socialism than capitalism.
    No socialism about it, I was not referring to the money/value aspect.

    It all depends on what you consider the term "Buddy" is in the friendship level meter, everyone's gauge is different for that term.

    For example; someone I have know for years as an "acquaintance" tells me he paid $400 for it to help another friend out, but then offers to it to me for $500, shows me where I stand with that person, but it depends on the item in question if I consider the purchase or not and I would not be too offended.

    Next example: A long time personal close friend were to do that I definitely would have to re-evaluate the close friendship thing status and feel a little hurt.

    In the way the OP made the first post I read it as "His Buddy" helped another buddy out in a $$ situation then turned around offered it to him for $500, $100 profit, didn't sound very "Buddy" like to me.

    The OP clarified that "He" was the one who offered the extra $100.
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    If I was in the market for this gun and a close friend offered it to me for $500, I 'd jump on it. Even knowing he paid $400. That's a good deal no matter which way you slice it. It seems to me that's more than fair. He risked his money on a gun he didn't particularly want to help someone. Then he offered it for more than a fair price and well under market value. He could be making $150 to $200 more on some of the gun sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    So if he got it free as a gift or heirloom should he be forced to give it to you for free as well? Just curious how far this 'good friend' thing goes. What if he paid MORE than market value, should you... as a good friend... be forced to pay over market value to bail your friend out of a bad deal he made? I never understood why some got their jimmies ruffled over what the previous owner paid. Starting to sound an awful lot more like socialism than capitalism.
    It reminds me of people who sell a gun for an asking price and they're happy when it sells at that price. But they get all bent when the next guy turns around and sells it for more $$. Once you sell the gun, it's a done deal. What happens after that isn't the original seller's concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    No socialism about it, I was not referring to the money/value aspect.

    It all depends on what you consider the term "Buddy" is in the friendship level meter, everyone's gauge is different for that term.

    For example; someone I have know for years as an "acquaintance" tells me he paid $400 for it to help another friend out, but then offers to it to me for $500, shows me where I stand with that person, but it depends on the item in question if I consider the purchase or not and I would not be too offended.

    Next example: A long time personal close friend were to do that I definitely would have to re-evaluate the close friendship thing status and feel a little hurt.

    In the way the OP made the first post I read it as "His Buddy" helped another buddy out in a $$ situation then turned around offered it to him for $500, $100 profit, didn't sound very "Buddy" like to me.

    The OP clarified that "He" was the one who offered the extra $100.
    The socialism reference was a bit facetious on my part but you get the point. His idea of 'buddy' does come into play but much like I said before even if he's a good buddy there's a flip side to that coin which is why what is paid for something by one individual should not come into account when that individual sells it to someone else. Anyone else. That flip side is if you have a good buddy who receives a bunch of firearms from a relative who has passed away. Knowing this he offers you one that he decides he doesn't want to keep. Should you expect this to be given to you for free since he received it free or would you pay market or near market value? After all, you are a good buddy, right? Something a good buddy does is they don't take advantage of another buddy with knowledge they have gained in order to get ahead. If he wants to offer it to you for less than market than that's one thing but EXPECTING that is just as bad as trying to make money off your buddies IMO. So in this instance if the buddy didn't pay $400 and he received it for free would you feel 'shafted' if he offered it to you for $100 even though it was worth $400-$500? Seems pretty unreasonable to do such a thing to a good friend yet he's 'making' the same $100 off of you. Things start to get complex and this is exactly why I try to avoid selling items to good buddies because in the end it never helps a friendship and if I do it's market value or ever-so-slightly less and my buddy usually doesn't mind paying it if it's something he wants as he would pay that or slightly more elsewhere. None of my friends expect a free ride nor do they expect to gain position on my back and those are the types of friends I keep. Maybe you're different but that's my take on the subject and to me seems the fairest way taking all things into consideration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    It reminds me of people who sell a gun for an asking price and they're happy when it sells at that price. But they get all bent when the next guy turns around and sells it for more $$. Once you sell the gun, it's a done deal. What happens after that isn't the original seller's concern.
    Also a good point. Once you sell an item you relinquish ALL rights to that item. If they sell it for more that shouldn't mean anything to you and you shouldn't expect anything or be angry of they sell it for more just like if they have to take a loss they shouldn't expect you to show up with money to span the gap. All sales are final and both parties agreed to the terms which were stated originally and that's the end of their transaction in it's entirety as it applies to that item.
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    I heard a "buddy" was someone who would go downtown and get two blow jobs and then bring one back for you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Norseman View Post
    I heard a "buddy" was someone who would go downtown and get two blow jobs and then bring one back for you.....
    That's a pretty good 'buddy' there.
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