Senate Bill 100 - Bill to repeal the banned standard capacity magazine ban

[O2HeN2]

IMHO deaf ears. The 'dems have their marching orders.

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[Rucker61]

Question on all this- as I'm not sure which, and we need to adjust accordingly: Is it that our voices are falling on deaf ears? Or are our voices not loud enough and we need to turn the volume up?

It's not deaf ears - it's fingers in ears, shaking their heads screaming "no, no, no". Tom Mauser, father of a Columbine victim, brought his emotional testimony to the committee, but he should be testifying for our side. His son's killer used a carbine with 10 round magazines, changing magazines at least 9 times. Hypocrite.

[Ronin13]

It's not deaf ears - it's fingers in ears, shaking their heads screaming "no, no, no". Tom Mauser, father of a Columbine victim, brought his emotional testimony to the committee, but he should be testifying for our side. His son's killer used a carbine with 10 round magazines, changing magazines at least 9 times. Hypocrite.

Lest we not forget that there was an AWB at the time his son was killed... oh what a difference that made! Tom Mauser is an idiot. Anyone who thinks like him is an idiot. And anyone who stands on the graves of the dead to promote some political agenda is just pure evil, especially when this guy is standing on his own son's grave! The day someone dictates to me what freedom I may and may not enjoy, that is the day I no longer have freedom, that is the day I'm ruled by tyrants.

[battle_sight_zero]

Question on all this- as I'm not sure which, and we need to adjust accordingly: Is it that our voices are falling on deaf ears? Or are our voices not loud enough and we need to turn the volume up?

Our voices are falling on deaf ears. The only way we will be heard is voing majority a majority of 2nd amendment representatives and 2nd amendment supporting governor. If that happens a loud message will be sent that will be heard for decades, that is progressives down the road will be less likely to monkey with the laws.

Everyone has got to unite.

[osok-308]

It's not deaf ears - it's fingers in ears, shaking their heads screaming "no, no, no". Tom Mauser, father of a Columbine victim, brought his emotional testimony to the committee, but he should be testifying for our side. His son's killer used a carbine with 10 round magazines, changing magazines at least 9 times. Hypocrite.

I was going to go to this today, until they changed the date. There was already a ban on >10 round mags at the time. Plus we live in a state that borders states where you can buy larger magazines. If you're the kind of person who already decided you want to kill a lot of people, you'll probably just make a quick visit to Wyoming and get some standard capacity mags anyway. I mean if someone decided they're going to commit felonies anyway, They aren't going to let laws "inconvenience" them.

[O2HeN2]

Plus we live in a state that borders states where you can buy larger magazines. If you're the kind of person who already decided you want to kill a lot of people, you'll probably just make a quick visit to Wyoming and get some standard capacity mags anyway. I mean if someone decided they're going to commit felonies anyway, They aren't going to let laws "inconvenience" them.

Really poor argument. Putting my anti-gun hat on: ...and that's exactly why we need to make this a FEDERAL ban.

Argue the principle, argue emotionally, ANYTHING but "...you can buy them over there". To the antis what you gave is not a reason to lift our ban, it's a reason to make the ban wider.

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[osok-308]

Really poor argument. Putting my anti-gun hat on: ...and that's exactly why we need to make this a FEDERAL ban.

Argue the principle, argue emotionally, ANYTHING but "...you can buy them over there". To the antis what you gave is not a reason to lift our ban, it's a reason to make the ban wider.

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That might be true. But I would counter that with the fact that columbine occurred in the height of a federal ban. Or make note that it is illegal to own one sixteen- round magazine (xdm) yet it is legal to own fifteen round mags (glock). and ask them what makes that extra round so morally wrong.

[newracer]

Their is no point in arguing anything logical with them, they have already made that crystal clear. All they care about is their position.

[Ronin13]

Their is no point in arguing anything logical with them, they have already made that crystal clear. All they care about is their position.

Which is why we need to get rid of them. As long as you have politicians getting into the game based on their own personal vendettas against an unalienable right, you're going to have issues like this. Rhonda Fields doesn't care about logic, she doesn't care about the constitution, she only cares about seeking revenge on an inanimate object that she feels has wronged her (and others). Stupid as that sounds, that's liberal logic for you. It's much akin to me losing a good friend sophomore year of high school to a drunk driver, and instead of saying we need stricter drunk-driving penalties, I go after the car manufacturers.

[Justin]

Really poor argument. Putting my anti-gun hat on: ...and that's exactly why we need to make this a FEDERAL ban.

The best response there is to point out that the federal ban was a failure, and there's no data supporting the efficacy of any of the arbitrary state bans.

The TL;DR version is that there's no use in doubling down on failed policies.