Close
Page 1 of 6 123456 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 57

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    The Bullet Button of Gun Owners nynco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Thornton
    Posts
    1,793

    Default CDOT to sell our roads without citizen approval.

    I am not trying to start a debate about socialism or capitalism here. Please don't turn it into that. This is about the citizens of Colorado deciding our future. I can see many Conservatives and Tea Party patriots being interested in this.

    CDOT is getting ready to sell our roads to a private company for a lease of 50 years. They plan to do this to I36 first and then I70 and I25 and more. This is being fast tracked on purpose to prevent the public from debating the sale of our roads. There is language in contract that prevents Colorado from improving on the roads for the next 50 years in any way that hinders the profit of the company buying our roads. To include improving local roads around the new toll roads. This could even be used to kill off any form of infrastructure improvements over the next 50 years. To me this is a big deal and harms the citizens of this state for generations. Its like living large on a credit card.

    If you support this, fine. But, I think that no un-elected bureaucracy should have the right to sell our public infrastructure without the consent of the people. I think anything like this needs to be voted on by the people. There needs to be a public referendum on a ballot before we sell our public roads. Let the public decide.

    This is a link to a wordpress site that has more detail. The page stinks of hyperbole and other stuff. Don't get caught up in the liberal stuff you might take issue with. This is too important to get lost in the weeds that way. The main point is voters should decide. I think the Tea Party people can see value in that stance.

    https://friendsofthecoloradopuc.word...ing-by-cdot-2/

    Is this being talked about in the Conservative world? What are the thoughts of the board members here. I have learned a great deal from you all and have changed my stances of some issues because of your sound reasoning and I would like your thought and input on this.

    Thank you

  2. #2
    More Abrasive Than Sand In Your Crotch tmleadr03's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Aurora, CO
    Posts
    3,080

    Default

    Socialism bad, capitalism good.

    /Thread
    European Auto Repair
    www.bavarianmotorsllc.com
    weaverbmotors@gmail.com
    303-656-9268

    Best way to get in to see me at the shop is to call or email Shannon and make an appointment.

  3. #3
    Definitively Not A Gong Shooter
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Bakersfield CA
    Posts
    1,084

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    Socialism bad, capitalism good.

    /Thread
    this.

  4. #4
    The Bullet Button of Gun Owners nynco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Thornton
    Posts
    1,793

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    Socialism bad, capitalism good.

    /Thread
    I honestly don't want to get into that at all. The point I am trying to make is I want the people to decide through a vote and not let an unelected big government bureaucracy. That big government bureaucracy should not have the power to sell our public infrastructure without our consent.
    Last edited by nynco; 02-10-2014 at 12:02.

  5. #5
    More Abrasive Than Sand In Your Crotch tmleadr03's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Aurora, CO
    Posts
    3,080

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    I honestly don't want to get into that at all. The point I am trying to make is I want the people to decide through a vote and not let an unelected big government bureaucracy. That big government bureaucracy should not have the power to sell our public infrastructure without our consent.
    Of course but this is why I posted that...


    And while I am all for private companies owning roads if they maintain them I avoid toll roads since I already pay for roads in my taxes.
    European Auto Repair
    www.bavarianmotorsllc.com
    weaverbmotors@gmail.com
    303-656-9268

    Best way to get in to see me at the shop is to call or email Shannon and make an appointment.

  6. #6
    The Bullet Button of Gun Owners nynco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Thornton
    Posts
    1,793

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    Of course but this is why I posted that...


    And while I am all for private companies owning roads if they maintain them I avoid toll roads since I already pay for roads in my taxes.
    Sorry I misunderstood you. I took it as you being cynical of me and I should not have jumped to that conclusion. I can be a little defensive around here and I am working on changing that. I also see many board members here changing and softening on their negative opinion of my past and I thank them for giving me a chance to change.

  7. #7
    Machine Gunner
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Conifer
    Posts
    1,473

    Default

    Interesting, Hickenlooper loves to outsource and these initiatives are being pushed by him in several areas of state government. It looks like 36 is a proof of concept; glad it isn't 285 or 470! Not surprised that this is being pushed by his administration and becoming an action item rather than a plan for comment; after all, these people know what is best for us, right?
    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
    Thomas Jefferson

    Feedback

  8. #8
    The Bullet Button of Gun Owners nynco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Thornton
    Posts
    1,793

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MED View Post
    Interesting, Hickenlooper loves to outsource and these initiatives are being pushed by him in several areas of state government. It looks like 36 is a proof of concept; glad it isn't 285 or 470! Not surprised that this is being pushed by his administration and becoming an action item rather than a plan for comment; after all, these people know what is best for us, right?
    Actually this is the first trial run and those roads might be next. Either we stop it now or we prepare for more.
    Last edited by nynco; 02-10-2014 at 13:10.

  9. #9
    The "Godfather" of COAR Great-Kazoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Washboard Alley, AZ.
    Posts
    48,097

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    I honestly don't want to get into that at all. The point I am trying to make is I want the people to decide through a vote and not let an unelected big government bureaucracy. That big government bureaucracy should not have the power to sell our public infrastructure without our consent.
    I know a bunch of folks who live on the rez that agree.
    The Great Kazoo's Feedback

    "when you're happy you enjoy the melody but, when you're broken you understand the lyrics".

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Bailey CO
    Posts
    6,268

    Default

    So if an Interstate is Federally funded, how can a state lease them?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •