Quote Originally Posted by crays View Post
Do your research before putting your foot in your mouth. It was not Reagan, but the Dems that have always mandated the raiding of SS. Every time. Look it up.

ETA: Reagan did sign into law taxes on SS earnings, but only above a certain income threshold...Something you should applaud, given your statements in this thread. (If you don't get that, it means that if you are making a certain amount of income, in addition to SS, a portion of your SS may be taxed as income.)
Actually he put through MANY more laws than that on SS. Tip O'Niel once said of Reagan policies it was "one big Christmas party for the rich." Reagan ran up the bill with the treasury on defense spending that tapped into the surplus that SS was supposed to put away for future generations. These were the 'selling our kids future' debates of the time. Um.... For your next statement.... That was our future they were debating.

BTW, from my personal perspective, getting a payout from SS (which I do not), which you, as an idividual have paid into (mandated by .gov, none the less), is not a .gov handout. The travesty lies in the fact that I will likely never see a cent of SS benefit myself, because I am a productive, competent contributor to society, and SS will have been long since sucked dry by so many, that somehow were paid benefits, yet never contributed to the fund.
Actually we agree here for the most part. Read below for the exceptions, I am good with.

Also interesting is that in your rebuttal to my reply, you are now referring to your printer repair friend in the past tense.
He is quickly approaching retirement age and the fact is at his level of earning he has no chance of being able to retire. The past tense is appropriate because there is nothing he can really do at this point.

And now your child has no chance to excel (your statement). What's up with that? Are you the repair guy. Is it your child you were referring to in your original reference to said repair guy? You need to start your own bitch thread to bitch about what you want to bitch about. This thread was started to comment on the current state of the rampant FSA element in society, and not the poor, down-trodden, defeated working class in our society that cannot get ahead, because they are being held back by the system. Better your lot in life, or accept it.
My son is developmentally challenged as it seems so many are now days. I am not the guy on the press's and not 'just bitching'. It adds another level of difficulty to my own circumstances and was only brought up because many people (and their families) are in my son's shoes. You can't help how you are when you come out or what happens to you in life. Some are perfectly healthy and have every chance to excel but don't. Others come out with varying degrees of "challenges" because ... It happens. My son had over 37 operations before he was a year old. It is a miracle he is alive and my wife is an amazing mother. I am lucky to have both in so many ways. Still others have things happen to them completly out of their control like an IED blowing up or just the pressure of being shot at is too much. 2 out of 3 of these are not 'Grasshoppers' yet they would fit nicely into the first post of this thread since they may get assistance.

am not inclined to respond further in this thread.


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Reply or not is your own decision. I have simply tried to respond in kind to your and others responses as this is a good debate. Debate being a good exchange of point and counter point without emotion. Once emotion comes into it, its just an argument and nobody is really listening. Many on this forum claim to be open to opinions (and I have found that to be mostly true). I have shared mine. We differ, and that is healthy. It stops the echo chambers I started seeing.