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    Default National Guard Photos: "We put the 'fun' in funeral"

    Have you folks seen this?

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...edium=facebook

    Seems to be in poor taste

    Two photos posted on Instagram by a member of the Wisconsin National Guard have caused an uproar on social media.
    In one, 14 soldiers are seen joking around in front of what authorities say was an empty coffin draped with the American flag. The caption with that image reads, in part: "We put the FUN in funeral."
    In the other, the soldier who put the pictures on the Web is seen in uniform. The caption with that photo reads: "It's so damn cold out....WHY have a funeral outside !? Somebody's getting a jacked up flag."
    Monday afternoon, the Wisconsin National Guard said on its Facebook page that the photos had been brought to its attention and "we are currently looking into the matter."
    Today, the Wisconsin guard's public affairs office released a statement that says, in part:
    "While the photos and comments do not portray any misconduct during the performance of actual military funeral honors, Maj. Paul Rickert, the Wisconsin National Guard's director of public affairs, said he understands that their content is upsetting to many. The Wisconsin National Guard expects all Soldiers who carry out this sacred detail to handle it with professionalism and honor, he said.
    " 'A military funeral is the final show of respect for our veterans and their families, and we take that solemn duty very seriously,' Rickert said. 'The very name 'military funeral honors' underscores the importance we ascribe — both as the military and society at large — to such solemn occasions. These photos and comments do not appear to align with those values.'
    " 'We expect all of our Soldiers and Airmen to live by a core set of values, in word and deed,' Maj. Gen. Donald P. Dunbar, the Wisconsin adjutant general said. 'I was appalled by the offensive photos and comments that appeared on this Soldier's social media site regarding her duties as a funeral honor guard member.'
    "Dunbar ordered an investigation into the matter."
    According to the Wisconsin guard, "the group photo with the training casket was taken at the Professional Education Center, a National Guard training facility in North Little Rock, Ark." The image includes soldiers from other states, noe of whom had been identified as of early Tuesday afternoon. The Wisconsin soldier who posted it "has been indefinitely suspended from the funeral honors detail pending an investigation into the matter," according to her commanders.
    The Wisconsin guard says the soldier is Spc. Terry Harrison. Its press release adds that measures have been taken to ensure her safety, "following threats [she] received via social media." Wisconsin's WISN-TV says the soldier told the station "she's been receiving death threats."
    Her Instagram account has been wiped from the Web. The images, however, have been copied and can be seen on the Wisconsin guard's Facebook page in the comments about them. The messages on that page are emotional and at times heart-breaking. For example:
    "I would like to point out as the wife of a fallen soldier that these pictures raise so many questions that shouldn't be raised by Gold Star Families.
    "I wonder if my husband was treated with the dignity and respect he deserved. Did his honor guard make jokes about being at his service or complain about being there? I know other widows whose flags are folded improperly and it's raised the question of whether it was folded incorrectly out of spite.
    "These are painful thoughts to even have surface. We want to know our loved one lost was treated with the utmost dignity and respect. I do believe an apology to all Gold Star Families is due and reassurance that proper disciplinary actions are going to be taken. And what steps will be taken to ensure that something this disrespectful NEVER occurs again.
    "I am coming up on my 2 year mark this week and these are the last things I want to question. I just want to survive this week."
    One person who has commented on the guard's Facebook page offers a link and some advice to the soldiers in the photo with the coffin: "They should read this." It's a gripping account of what it was like for passengers on a Delta flight to find out that a fallen soldier's body was being brought home aboard the plane. Here's one particularly relevant passage:
    "To see the Honor Guard and family waiting patiently, while LAX baggage handlers and a military loadmaster remove the flag covered casket first from the cargo hold, was humbling to say the least. I'm not sure if it was the fallen soldier's mother or wife who I watched slowly walk up to the coffin while a few other family members, wrapped in blankets, stood near with a dozen or so of the Honor Guards standing in salute.
    "As soon as I saw her reach out to put her hand on her baby's casket, I walked away.
    "This ordinary flight became extraordinary and is one that I will never forget.
    "Thank you to all the military who protect our beautiful country and let us live the lives we are able to lead. Without you we would be nothing. And thank you to the Honor Guard for making sure these fallen soldiers, warriors and heroes are not treated like just any piece of luggage as they used to, but rather with the care and respect they so rightly deserve."

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    OMGWTFBBQ Ban all the fun!

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    They should all be NJP'd and the NCO should be be disciplined, I read on one FB page that he/she defended the soldiers. That's conduct unbecoming of a Non-Commissioned Officer, and thus this individual should be demoted and barred from promotion. I oversaw some of the S3 tasks associated with Funeral Details while our unit had it for 45 days in the Northeast, all the soldiers on the detail treated it with the utmost reverence and honor. Seeing this just saddens me and makes me feel great disappointment in the future of our beloved military.
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    "The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."

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    I understand it's a hard and emotional job, I understand the need for some release and morbid humor. However, they should know (or really need a reminder) not to post that stuff in today's world.

    For full disclosure, I did laugh a bit. I don't think they meant it as a serious picture... Then again, in today's world...

    I respect all our military forces. Thank you so much for putting your life and future on the line every day for our safety. You are all truly hero's who deserve so much more in life than you get credit for.

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    FYI: it's gone up all the way to the Pentagon as of this morning and some serious ass kicking is going to be done shortly. Stay tuned.

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    I don't care who they are or why they did it. That person put their life on the line and now their family gets to deal with stuff like this? Disrespect is disrespect, I say they all deserve a good ole Marine Corps boot to the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USMC_5-Echo View Post
    I don't care who they are or why they did it. That person put their life on the line and now their family gets to deal with stuff like this? Disrespect is disrespect, I say they all deserve a good ole Marine Corps boot to the face.
    ^^^THIS.
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    If she was SrA, 3 years in the service is a long enough time to learn. She was not a "Young Airman" at that point.

    I bet she knows nothing of what Sgt Bowe Bergdahl has gone through for nearly 5 years. I vote the prisoner exchange should be him for her.
    Last edited by rbeau30; 02-19-2014 at 21:26.

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    You tend to take it a little more seriously when it's one of your friends in that box.

    I have absolutely no sympathy for these people for whatever consequences they face.
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    Wasn't the casket empty for the photo?
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