That is my point with a 500 S&W I don't think you can conceal that beast.Originally Posted by carnplanenut
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That is my point with a 500 S&W I don't think you can conceal that beast.
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Just a couple of 1911's that Kaboom'd from them. Unknown reason for the kb on one, a converted Colt 1911 and the other was obvious, a Taurus 1911 which it was clearly warned against conversion.
Both were catastrophic failures, split barrels and a bulged slide on the Taurus
My guess would be incorrect reloading.
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The 460 Rowland is basically what 45 ACP would be if it was designed with modern metallurgy in mind. The 45 ACP was designed with a SAAMI chamber spec of 35,000 PSI max. Conversely the 40 S&W was designed in 87 and with a 60,000 PSI chamber spec.
NOT ALL GUNS ARE MADE TO HANDLE THIS!
I wouldn't convert any 1911 to this chambering. The gun's design just isn't conducive to the pounding. A Glock 21 will take the beating better. It's not so much that the chamber can't handle the pressures, but the momentum of the round itself has a tendency to wear out or destroy guns. You cannot ignore Newton's 3rd law. You want to shoot big-nasty, it's going to hammer the crap out of the gun and your hand and your wrist… 460 Rowland ammo is hard/impossible to find. If you don't reload, then you are going to have a paperweight. If you do reload, you are going to run a gun on the edge with hot loads and probably have to carry reloads in a defensive pistol. I'm not a fan of either of these reloading choices. Between poor conversion platform choices and the reloads, lots of guns have been fragged from this caliber choice. Ultimately, you are just better off with a 10mm, 357 mag or 44 mag. Ammo is available, reloading is easy, guns are available.
There are just some calibers that should be for carbines and not pistols. The 460 Rowland may very well be one of them. I also find all these new gigantic calibers for revolvers that have come out over the last 20 years or so to be in this same category. Anything over 44 mag is obnoxious enough to not really be a feasible pistol round. JMHO.
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Thanks for the info on the .460 SA. I never paid any attention to it because it is such an oddball.
Like I said the only ones I have dealt with were both owned by the same guy and both KB'd very close to each other time wise. He had them converted by someplace in Texas. Funny thing though, when I looked at the website for the place that did them they specifically advised against converting a Taurus.
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So I ordered one today. I will let you know how it fits, especially with the Alaskan inside. Still considering an SP101 or a Glock 29/30 (I have a shot twice Mossberg SPX that I could trade), but I haven't decided yet.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Jason
Good deal!
Even if the Alaskan don't fit, you'll be happy with your purchase.
I'll keep you posted as it should arrive by the end of next week. I ended up ordering the 11 liter size...
So, I have received the Ribz pack and had a chance to play with it. really like it. The only thing that I wish was that the zipper in the front came down the side of the compartments as opposed to just across the top. It definitely is large enough to accommodate the Alaskan, but I would recommend having any firearm in a holster inside so that the trigger doesn't get pulled with anything inside of the pack.
This is definitely a must have for backpackers....
Jason
What size did you order, and would you change your mind now that you have it in hand?
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I can't speak for Tinelement but I got the 11Litre version in a large (34-38"waist). I would recommend it.
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