Vortex Viper PST FFP 4-16

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Have you looked through the SS 3-15? If so how do the two compare with glass quality?

Yeah, I'd say it's on par with the Vortex, not quite as many bells and whistles but very good glass for the money, accurate tracking, and an overall good package. That's not to take away from the Viper, I've got 2 vipers and 1 razor and am very happy with them. The only thing differenciating them IMO is the price. Since Tim K and Skullybones came up with the zero stop shims and SS has approved them for use without voiding the warranty, there's no real shortcoming in the SS unless you need illumination. Also to be considdered is that the SS does not come with a Sun Shade but is available for $20. So for essentially the same features minus illumination in the SS you're looking at $740 (shade and shims added) as compared to $900 for the Viper PST FFP.

Both offer good customer service but I'd give the edge on warranty to Vortex.

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Yeah, I'd say it's on par with the Vortex, not quite as many bells and whistles but very good glass for the money, accurate tracking, and an overall good package. That's not to take away from the Viper, I've got 2 vipers and 1 razor and am very happy with them. The only thing differenciating them IMO is the price. Since Tim K and Skullybones came up with the zero stop shims and SS has approved them for use without voiding the warranty, there's no real shortcoming in the SS unless you need illumination. Also to be considdered is that the SS does not come with a Sun Shade but is available for $20. So for essentially the same features minus illumination in the SS you're looking at $740 (shade and shims added) as compared to $900 for the Viper PST FFP.

Both offer good customer service but I'd give the edge on warranty to Vortex.

I picked up a used SWFA 3-15. Thanks for your advice and info. Also bought the zero stop from Tim K. Thanks again.