Malaysian Airlines flight 370

[KAPA]

I'm still betting that this thing ended up in the 'stans somewhere. It will surface again.

Our satellites would have spotted it by now. It is not like you can hide this kind of plane in some hanger off of a dirt stip. Any airport that it could have landed at and made it off of the runway has undoubtedly been checked by now. The plane weighs so much that unless it lands at a modernized airport its wheels will probably sink through the pavement of your average po dunk 3^rd world Apron. Not to mention there are very few hangars in the world that this thing could even fit inside of.

[Singlestack]

^^^ I think this is it. Yes, the satellites and sensors can track amazing detail, but they have to be looking at something specific. In general, I don't think they have enough resources currently to track every large object (ship, airliner, etc). For sure, a lot of intelligence resources are looking at things like missile launch locations and probably many sites in the bad actor countries...

[HoneyBadger]

^^^ I think this is it. Yes, the satellites and sensors can track amazing detail, but they have to be looking at something specific. In general, I don't think they have enough resources currently to track every large object (ship, airliner, etc). For sure, a lot of intelligence resources are looking at things like missile launch locations and probably many sites in the bad actor countries...

Bingo. I don't want to go into more detail here, but I work in the satellite industry and you hit the nail on the head here. Our national defense resources are focused on a lot of things, but commercial flights over the South China Sea don't get much attention.

There is a lot of interesting stuff to read on the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysi...nes_Flight_370

[rondog]

What I was getting at is, can't they use those satellite resources to look for debris on the oceans or crash sites in jungles? Seems like they could devote a little time towards that, but whadafukdoIknow.....

[KAPA]

What I was getting at is, can't they use those satellite resources to look for debris on the oceans or crash sites in jungles? Seems like they could devote a little time towards that, but whadafukdoIknow.....

Think back to when Captain Sulley turned that Airbus into a floatplane on the Hudson a few years ago. Did that plane break up into a million pieces? This plane most likely went into the drink in the same manner and since it was probably not pressurized it slowly filled with water and to the bottom it went. Hell even if was fully pressurized it could have sat on the water for a week or more since no one was looking for it within a few thousand miles of where it may have gone down. My point is, with the autopilot on it could have very easily landed on the surface and then simply sunk all in one piece.

[sniper7]

Think back to when Captain Sulley turned that Airbus into a floatplane on the Hudson a few years ago. Did that plane break up into a million pieces? This plane most likely went into the drink in the same manner and since it was probably not pressurized it slowly filled with water and to the bottom it went. Hell even if was fully pressurized it could have sat on the water for a week or more since no one was looking for it within a few thousand miles of where it may have gone down. My point is, with the autopilot on it could have very easily landed on the surface and then simply sunk all in one piece.

Sully while he did an amazing job, sank the airplane by not pushing the ditching pushbutton. Doing so would have kept that plane floating instead of it sinking into the Hudson over time before they could retrieve it. But in that position I probably wouldnt have remembered either, and can't armchair quarterback doing what he did with what he had, just wanting to point out that the plane would have stayed afloat had that button been pushed.


another thought and a random guess could be he went high to knock everybody out while on oxygen and de pressurizing the plane. Then got down and ditched it in the water near a boat. He sinks the plane full of unconscious people, climbs out the window to the boat and sails into the sunset. The reason behind doing such is anyone's guess. One thing I question is if he turned the ELT off if it would still activate with enough g force or once it hit water.

[KAPA]

Sully while he did an amazing job, sank the airplane by not pushing the ditching pushbutton. Doing so would have kept that plane floating instead of it sinking into the Hudson over time before they could retrieve it. But in that position I probably wouldnt have remembered either, and can't armchair quarterback doing what he did with what he had, just wanting to point out that the plane would have stayed afloat had that button been pushed.

And if the plane was depressurized while on an altitude hold before it glided into the water with everyone already asphyxiated several hours back? I am doubting that button got hit in this situation.

But you do bring up a good point here as that functionality is built into modern airliners. I do question if it really works though and for how long. I mean that plane could still be floating down by Antarctica at the moment.

[sniper7]

And if the plane was depressurized while on an altitude hold before it glided into the water with everyone already asphyxiated several hours back? I am doubting that button got hit in this situation.

But you do bring up a good point here as that functionality is built into modern airliners. I do question if it really works though and for how long. I mean that plane could still be floating down by Antarctica at the moment.

I was actually implying intentional depressurization by the pilot/pilots/terrorists.

they out on their oxygen masks, then depressurize. They remain conscious, knock out/kill everyone in the back. Then ditch the plane and sink it. Jut another theory but would explain why it wasn't found if it's at the bottom of the ocean.

[RMAC757]

Sully while he did an amazing job, sank the airplane by not pushing the ditching pushbutton. Doing so would have kept that plane floating instead of it sinking into the Hudson over time before they could retrieve it. But in that position I probably wouldnt have remembered either, and can't armchair quarterback doing what he did with what he had, just wanting to point out that the plane would have stayed afloat had that button been pushed.


another thought and a random guess could be he went high to knock everybody out while on oxygen and de pressurizing the plane. Then got down and ditched it in the water near a boat. He sinks the plane full of unconscious people, climbs out the window to the boat and sails into the sunset. The reason behind doing such is anyone's guess. One thing I question is if he turned the ELT off if it would still activate with enough g force or once it hit water.

Sniper, its pretty common knowledge that hitting the ""ROAP" button is part of the process. If someone says they paid attention during the ditching portion of recurrent they're lying. I'm didn't know that the triple had one. That being said Sully probably had the first "successful" under slung ditching in history. It had never happen before. A half degree of tilt would spin and crack that thing like an egg. A gentle, level wing, flame out glide to the ocean surface without someone at the controls is impossible.

[Ronin13]

What I was getting at is, can't they use those satellite resources to look for debris on the oceans or crash sites in jungles? Seems like they could devote a little time towards that, but whadafukdoIknow.....

One thing you don't... the hassle and cost of retasking an imagery satellite... Just sayin'.