Malaysian Airlines flight 370

[def90]

To the conspiracy minded out there.. don't forget that air france disappeared without a mayday as well. A catastrophic malfunction happened, isn't the first time. Hope they all went peacefully.



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[Gman]

To the conspiracy minded out there.. don't forget that air france disappeared without a mayday as well. A catastrophic malfunction happened, isn't the first time.

Air France flight 447 was an Airbus A330. Boeing builds a stronger airframe with a different operational mindset, IMO. The 777 has been one of the safest aircraft produced.

Even after a pilot error with 777 Asiana Airlines flight 214 clipping the sea wall on landing in San Francisco, only 3 fatalities and the rest of the 307 aboard survived.

[HoneyBadger]

Very interesting quote from the other site... Certainly makes you think.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I think def90's point is that planes can disappear without a mayday. Destructive reactions can build up without the pilot's notice -- and the pilot himself may be unable to cope with the event to the point of not issuing a mayday. You can build the strongest airframe in the world with the best autopilot software but a bad pilot can make it all irrelevant.

I am puzzled by the lack of a debris trail. It implies whatever happened not only went down fast but maintained most of the structural integrity of the aircraft (of course, the stronger airframes made by Boeing made be an element of this but recall TWA 800 had a pretty significant debris trail).

[ruthabagah]

I think def90's point is that planes can disappear without a mayday. Destructive reactions can build up without the pilot's notice -- and the pilot himself may be unable to cope with the event to the point of not issuing a mayday. You can build the strongest airframe in the world with the best autopilot software but a bad pilot can make it all irrelevant.

I am puzzled by the lack of a debris trail. It implies whatever happened not only went down fast but maintained most of the structural integrity of the aircraft (of course, the stronger airframes made by Boeing made be an element of this but recall TWA 800 had a pretty significant debris trail).

You are right it is puzzling too. Wings part and rudder component should be found floating since they are mostly honeycomb composites.
And about the stronger frame claim, lets not forget that the fuselage of the A330 lost in the southern atlantic was found partly intact
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Within a week of resuming of the search operation, on 3 April 2011, a team led by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution operating full ocean depth autonomous underwater vehicles (AUVs) owned by the Waitt Institute discovered, by means of sidescan sonar, a large portion of debris field from flight AF447.^[119]Further debris and bodies, still trapped in the partly intact remains of the aircraft's fuselage, were located in water depths of between 3,800 to 4,000 metres (2,100 to 2,200 fathoms; 12,500 to 13,100 ft) ​"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

[HoneyBadger]

I'm going to blame Iran. That or the unions.


Is it even remotely possible that the plane did not crash and it landed intact somewhere? I know in the CONUS, we have a very good radar network where we can track everything, but over the ocean between pacific islands... not so much.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I'm going to blame Iran. That or the unions.


Is it even remotely possible that the plane did not crash and it landed intact somewhere? I know in the CONUS, we have a very good radar network where we can track everything, but over the ocean between pacific islands... not so much.

The fact they haven't found a debris trail would have led me to emergency landing somewhere but the Vietnamese seem to imply they had it on radar and lost contact just before it entered Vietnamese air control. I would love to know what they meant by "lost contact". I imagine the searchers and investigators are going crazy over this one as well.

[muddywings]

I'm going to blame Iran. That or the unions.
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You might be right: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...probe/6260177/

The fact they haven't found a debris trail would have led me to emergency landing somewhere but the Vietnamese seem to imply they had it on radar and lost contact just before it entered Vietnamese air control. I would love to know what they meant by "lost contact". I imagine the searchers and investigators are going crazy over this one as well.

I think I read that there is a theory that it turned around. If it did, then the losing contact could simply be a function of being out of range. The ocean can be mighty big...

[KAPA]

I'm going to blame Iran. That or the unions.


Is it even remotely possible that the plane did not crash and it landed intact somewhere? I know in the CONUS, we have a very good radar network where we can track everything, but over the ocean between pacific islands... not so much.

Yes, very possible.. take control of cockpit, kill the ACARS system, transponder, ELT, and fly low, it could have made it to North Korea.

[Mtn.man]

Aliens.