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    What's the bag limit on 2-wheeled antelope?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMC_5-Echo View Post
    Why doesn't the land owners just build a fence blocking access if they own the land?
    Because the railroad rights of way are granted an easement in the title deed of the land, regardless if the are abandoned or not. The issue is whether or not the .gov can claim those easements that were originally granted to the railroads, or the land reverts to the landowners. Ideally, the court ruling would revert the abandoned rights of way to the landowners, or require the .gov to pay fair value via a bond referendum(rather than existing tax resources).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    What's the bag limit on 2-wheeled antelope?
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    What the HECK is a 200 foot wide trail?! Isn't that at least as wide as a 4 lane highway?

    How many freaking bikers/walkers/hikers use that trail?

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    When are we going to start registering bicycles in Colorado? They use the roads, they are supposed to follow the same laws, they have the right of way, you have CRS laws pertaining to them, they even get their own lane in a lot of areas. The cement/asphalt was paid with my tax dollars from gas tax and registration fees. I want them to pay and get plates on their bikes.
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    Well, a lot of those bicyclists also own cars so they also pay into the road taxes. Pedestrians also have CRS pertaining to them, they have the right of way and they use the roadway and paths to walk. Shall we also register them? The cement and asphalt were paid for by everyone's taxes along with GOCO funding sometimes. Im pretty sure the wear and tear on the roadways are not the result of bicycles and pedestrians, and Im not sure why another person's mode of transportation gets some people so bent out of shape.
    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    When are we going to start registering bicycles in Colorado? They use the roads, they are supposed to follow the same laws, they have the right of way, you have CRS laws pertaining to them, they even get their own lane in a lot of areas. The cement/asphalt was paid with my tax dollars from gas tax and registration fees. I want them to pay and get plates on their bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffCyclist View Post
    What the HECK is a 200 foot wide trail?! Isn't that at least as wide as a 4 lane highway?

    How many freaking bikers/walkers/hikers use that trail?
    That is the size of the rail easement so they are gonna take claim foot of it. No way the actual trail is that wide.

    As for how many use it, Probably not very many given the population density around there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedysst View Post
    Well, a lot of those bicyclists also own cars so they also pay into the road taxes. Pedestrians also have CRS pertaining to them, they have the right of way and they use the roadway and paths to walk. Shall we also register them? The cement and asphalt were paid for by everyone's taxes along with GOCO funding sometimes. Im pretty sure the wear and tear on the roadways are not the result of bicycles and pedestrians, and Im not sure why another person's mode of transportation gets some people so bent out of shape.

    Well ill I own a motorcycle and an atv, both of which have better safety features than a bicycle yet one is street legal while another is not. I own a few vehicles as well. Are you saying I should only have to pay once and I can utilize all my assets on the roadways my taxes and registrations pay for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Well ill I own a motorcycle and an atv, both of which have better safety features than a bicycle yet one is street legal while another is not. I own a few vehicles as well. Are you saying I should only have to pay once and I can utilize all my assets on the roadways my taxes and registrations pay for?
    We get it, you hate bicycles, they hate you too. They cycle of being dicks to each other has gone on long enough that both sides hate each other completely.

    What exactly would bicycle registration achieve, other than as a punitive move? Based on mass (many registrations are based on vehicle mass since that is what damages roads) the fee would miniscule until you start tacking on the administrative costs.

    Edit: damn it now I'm sucked into another one of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    We get it, you hate bicycles, they hate you too. They cycle of being dicks to each other has gone on long enough that both sides hate each other completely.

    What exactly would bicycle registration achieve, other than as a punitive move? Based on mass (many registrations are based on vehicle mass since that is what damages roads) the fee would miniscule until you start tacking on the administrative costs.

    Edit: damn it now I'm sucked into another one of these.
    I like bicycles, I just hate the spandex wearing queer baits that think they own a highway or roadway and cause serious hazards to themselves and motorists who subsidize their ability to ride on nice pavement.
    Registration, along with new CRS additions would achieve safer roadways, equality among those who utilize our road system since it is essentially based on a user fee system, requirements for bicyclists to carry a registration as well as a drivers license or a bicycle license if they choose not to have a drivers license. This will make it much easier for LEO to issue citations for not obeying CRS.
    As to registrations, most are based on vehicle age, in addition to fees, taxes, administrative costs, etc. This move would give bicyclists a right to the road, as well as laws they would have to abide by which would include a bicyclist test to make sure they are aware of such laws. This will of course include a trip to the infamous DMV to take a test to prove knowledge of the laws and physical ability to ride a bicycle on roadways that their registration would pay for. There would as well be a DMV fee, licensing fee, and renewal fee as well.

    hopefully you also know it is currently in the CRS to honk behind a bicyclist while on a 2 lane road to alert the bicyclist that you are going to be passing them and you intend to give them the proper amount of space.


    ETA: forgot to add, bicycles would be required to have a VIN number, which will help against theft, riding stolen bicycles, as well as verifying registration during a routine traffic stop. Of course each bicycle will be required to have a VIN, and each VIN bearing bicycle will be required to be registered in order to be ridden on roadways.
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