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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    Remind me never to go to the range with you.
    Lol...oops. You know what I meant. If you believed your being threatened with a weapon. You protect yourself. At least everyone lives on to learn from this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trot View Post
    The way he swung the cane ended up quickly flinging it and pointing it directly at the officer.

    And no, you can't tell within a 1/2 second if it is a gun or not.
    Studies have shown that giving people 5 seconds exposure to scenes in optimal conditions, approximately 98% of college students will mis-identify a screw driver as a firearm, despite the two appearing radically different.

    Know it all Armchairs: If 98% of college students incorrectly identify a cordless screwdriver as a gun in ideal circumstances with 5 seconds...

    Please explain how a LEO is going to identify something as a weapon/nonweapon in only .05 seconds. That's all he has...
    Got it, shoot first ask later. Don't take up defensive positions. Don't take the.5 second to think. Don't wear a vest to greatly increase survivability. Don't understand the cop signed up knowing it was a dangerous job to begin with and part of the job. Don't take into consideration the old man might be OLD and need a cain. Don't take in to consideration it was an expired license plate not an identified felon. If so worried don't wait for backup or even run the plates to see if a dangerous person may be involved. Just shoot the innocent old man grabbing a cain becuase the cop MAY be in danger.

    Cops have a dangerous job which is ALL volunteer. If it comes down to them being in danger or an innocent the cop should ALWAYS go first.
    It is the basic tenant of the job. If not they are adrenaline junkies that have no business being a cop to begin with. This is the same premise I had when I was in the Navy. I should die (if need be) before those at home. Not be the danger of the job. Does this mean all cops should die, not protect themselves or not take measures to be safer... Of course not. It also does not mean all cops are bad people. Does it mean they have every responsibility to take that extra .5 second before they ever put one down range....... Yes... Yes it does. They are supposed to be trained to have the ability to identify the good from the bad in that .5 seconds, which is not the same as 98% of all college students who are not.

    As for armchair QB.... Everyday they also know that they will be judged for their actions, dash cams are a bitch/or savior. This sucked on all sides but the constant "Cops can do no wrong!" and the rest of us are just little people attitude brings on the BS "cop bashing" statements when anybody disagrees with a cops actions. This cop made a bad judgement. That does not mean he is a bad person or any other BS. He just screwed up (and he knew it.... it is obvious he is a good man by how that video ended). That is evident by the fact that he shot an unarmed, 70 year old vet that simply got out of his truck, got his cain and failed to read the cops manual (btw where is there any law that states we have to read about cop procedures? The cop never gave any instructions over his loudspeaker I could see that the man disobeyed, he just got out of his truck to deal with a cop he had no reason to fear)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Got it, shoot first ask later. Don't take up defensive positions. Don't take the.5 second to think. Don't wear a vest to greatly increase survivability. Don't understand the cop signed up knowing it was a dangerous job to begin with and part of the job. Don't take into consideration the old man might be OLD and need a cain. Don't take in to consideration it was an expired license plate not an identified felon. If so worried don't wait for backup or even run the plates to see if a dangerous person may be involved. Just shoot the innocent old man grabbing a cain becuase the cop MAY be in danger.

    Cops have a dangerous job which is ALL volunteer. If it comes down to them being in danger or an innocent the cop should ALWAYS go first.
    It is the basic tenant of the job. If not they are adrenaline junkies that have no business being a cop to begin with. This is the same premise I had when I was in the Navy. I should die (if need be) before those at home. Not be the danger of the job. Does this mean all cops should die, not protect themselves or not take measures to be safer... Of course not. It also does not mean all cops are bad people. Does it mean they have every responsibility to take that extra .5 second before they ever put one down range....... Yes... Yes it does. They are supposed to be trained to have the ability to identify the good from the bad in that .5 seconds, which is not the same as 98% of all college students who are not.

    As for armchair QB.... Everyday they also know that they will be judged for their actions, dash cams are a bitch/or savior. This sucked on all sides but the constant "Cops can do no wrong!" and the rest of us are just little people attitude brings on the BS "cop bashing" statements when anybody disagrees with a cops actions. This cop made a bad judgement. That does not mean he is a bad person or any other BS. He just screwed up (and he knew it.... it is obvious he is a good man by how that video ended). That is evident by the fact that he shot an unarmed, 70 year old vet that simply got out of his truck, got his cain and failed to read the cops manual (btw where is there any law that states we have to read about cop procedures? The cop never gave any instructions over his loudspeaker I could see that the man disobeyed, he just got out of his truck to deal with a cop he had no reason to fear)
    There is so much fail in your post, I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Good job armchair Peyton Manning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    There is so much fail in your post, I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Good job armchair Peyton Manning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    There is so much fail in your post, I don't even know where to begin, so I won't. Good job armchair Peyton Manning.
    I fail to see the fail, you sorta sound like Piers Morgan or Obama...
    The cop screwed up and almost killed somebody! Standing by for flaming in 3...2...1 GO!

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    Thankfully this leo seems to have skipped the extra range days

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    That Vet a one BAMF, I am buying a drink in his honor tonight. If I get shot( hopefully I don't), I hope I can walk it off like this salty dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    I fail to see the fail
    Then you fail....

    No comment on the Piers Morgan or Obama statement, I prefer not to be banned.
    Last edited by hurley842002; 03-14-2014 at 20:36.

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    Good thing he didn't have a service dog.

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    Ultimately, Police Officers are civilians like the rest of us and used to be held to the same standard. If the shoot
    is justified, it is justified whether or not a law enforcement officer fired it. What would have been the outcome
    if a normal, non uniformed citizen had fired the shot?

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