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    Grand Master Know It All 68Charger's Avatar
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    I feel very much the same way about gov't intrusion, which is why I am suspicious when they protect an industry, and there are other suspicious activity...
    "Big Pharma" is just a convenient term, perhaps I should use the more descriptive "Pharmaceutical companies who have already broken the law"

    The fines and settlements on that Wiki page exceed $17B, and that's just the top 20... they seem like a fine, upstanding group whose products I'd love to embrace...

    I also have a problem when the Gov't requires people to use a product, and limits the liability of the company making the product I'm forced to use to exactly ZERO
    Maybe I'm just paranoid... but a good friend once told me "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you"
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    I feel very much the same way about gov't intrusion, which is why I am suspicious when they protect an industry, and there are other suspicious activity...
    "Big Pharma" is just a convenient term, perhaps I should use the more descriptive "Pharmaceutical companies who have already broken the law"

    The fines and settlements on that Wiki page exceed $17B, and that's just the top 20... they seem like a fine, upstanding group whose products I'd love to embrace...

    I also have a problem when the Gov't requires people to use a product, and limits the liability of the company making the product I'm forced to use to exactly ZERO
    Maybe I'm just paranoid... but a good friend once told me "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you"

    ^ YUP ^


    I think I just dislike people more than you do. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by th3w01f View Post
    but the term anti-vaxers felt very derogatory to me.
    As it should. Parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids because some goddamn celebrity says they shouldn't are detrimental to the health of the species. If they see the facts before them, and still refuse, they're pissing in the gene pool.

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    seeing as all my kids have had their vaccines and are fine, i do not have a gripe.

    i do have a friend that has a little girl who was seeemingly perfectly normal before her vaccines and now has autism,

    until the real link to autism is made there will continue to be those who grasp at whatever causal link the believe there to be. when your kid has issues everyone looks for the reason, without a clear reason they may blame things that may or may not have anything to do with it, for all they know the autism could be brought on by the hormones in cows milk, the flouride in your drinking water, or one of a hundred other chemicals that did not used to be a in a product that kids use today.

    would i encourage parents to continue to vaccinate, yeah i would, without it the diseases that will come back into our world are far worse that the alternative.
    Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    i do have a friend that has a little girl who was seeemingly perfectly normal before her vaccines and now has autism,
    So…seemingly normal for the first month or two?
    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/...sch-0-6yrs.pdf

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    So for thread number 2 I figure I'll use this one.

    My point wasn't against vaccinations, it was against a group of people who believe that another group who are exercising there rights (as they stand today) should be forced to have their children display a mark of their choice. I'd be willing to bet that the reason most children who go unvaccinated do so because of $$$ or laziness on the part of the parents. I respect those who do it based on their beliefs or concerns.

    None of these unvaccinated children would become sick if it wasn't for an unvaccinated adult. These illnesses don't spontaneously come into being (ok no need for the chicken and egg argument).

    I feel that if you really want to protect the "heard" there are other things that are more important and if you really want to have people wear a bracelet, tattoo or bar code, there are probably more important things to watch out for.... Of course, none of my ideas would be politically correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by th3w01f View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that the reason most children who go unvaccinated do so because of $$$ or laziness on the part of the parents.

    None of these unvaccinated children would become sick if it wasn't for an unvaccinated adult.
    I'd gladly take the opposite in either of these bets.

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