What's in NM's water?

[The Norseman]

What's in NM's water? Shit floats down stream so it's got to be Colorado waste....

[ronaldrwl]

shot in the back
unload beanbags
Release dog

Seems like the wrong order

[Colorado Osprey]

shot in the back

When I was a LEO this was a re-occurring nightmare. You will get crucified for shooting someone in the back. There is no justifiable reason. They can NOT be a threat! I don't care that the subject had knives in both hands!
The officer that shot the subject in the back is gonna go to jail. Full auto no less-- he fired 4 rounds! Other officer(s) shot at least 4 rounds as well, maybe a shotgun (larger boom)

My nightmare was chasing someone and they were shooting over their shoulder at me when I returned fire. Always woke up realizing I was gonna get crucified.

Most Use of Force continuum allow Officers to escalate the force a level above the subject allowing deadly force; but nothing allows use of deadly force when the subject is attempting to flee and is no longer an immediate threat.

It seemed the only Officer than knew what he was doing was the one with the Non-Lethal shotguns. Announced and shot below the waist.

[palepainter]

I'm getting sick of these video game playing cops just blasting away when they certainly could handle situations differently. Too eager to blast away. Its too easy to just have on of the other cops yell out.....Drop the knife, walking cane, slurpee. That is all they need for the video to provide support for their actions.

[TFOGGER]

Reading the article, some things stand out that are true, based on the video:

Yes, they told the man repeatedly to drop the knife...after they had flash banged him, shot him, and he'd been taken down by the canine. He was also hit by at least 3 beanbags after he was already on the ground and unresponsive. Then they let the dog chew on him some more.

[speedysst]

Anyone hear the guy say "I have the right to kill you now?" I hate to point that little tidbit out lest I be called a "loyalist."

[vossman]

Intent, opportunity and capability is what we were told at every shift briefing. I didn't see the opportunity unless he was gonna throw the knives.
Colorado Osprey's post was pretty on the mark too, that's a tough defense. Scary that these guys have to live with that.

Very civil discussion so far, thx.

[thvigil11]

The officer involved seem to have a sketchy past. APD has been under investigation for the last year or two for their use of force. Personally I try to stay away from ABQ as much as possible.

http://krqe.com/2014/03/19/cop-invol...t-performance/

[BREATHER]

I am an ex-LEO from years ago and got out before it got real stupid... I defend cops actions daily where I work. I am, out of neccesity, working with a bunch of motard liberals... "how come it takes so many cops to take one guy down" my response "there is safety in numbers, so the perp or the cops don't get hurt",,, Then here is a ring of cops with AR's for one retard. My argument goes out the window. Damn shame for MY COUNTRY. Asses in office and asses in the field.....

[MrPrena]

The less-lethal guy had 2 less-lethal shotgun. Possibly 2 Beanbags, or 1 beanbag, and 1 xrep.