revolver vs. semi auto for CCW

[Pancho Villa]

I don't ever run on probaby's and "chances" when it comes to safety. Just a personal preference.

Thats perfectly fine, wise even. But you said:

The chances of needing more than 5 rounds in an encounter is pretty high.

This is factually incorrect. I'd prefer people not go spreading factually incorrect information.

I don't instantly assume that I'm freaking chuck norris,

I'd kind of prefer you be at least a competent pistolero. Comments like these:

Your nerves might be shot, your going to be suprised, it might be dark, you might have four perps against you.

Something that equates to "you will probably miss and thats okay" worry me a lot, again, because you are legally and morally responsible for where those bullets go. I have no problems with ending life if they have proven that they have no respect for the rights of other humans, but bullets flying off into the night do not have any judgment of their own in that regard.

Practice, under stressful conditions meant to duplicate, as close as possible, real conditions, is the answer. It is true that sitting on a firing line calmly shooting a target a known distance away isn't going to adequetely prepare you for a violent encounter. Any responsible person who carries for self defense should at least be confident that they will have some pretty coarse accuracy (c'mon, 10" at 3 yards is like 100moa! Even under some pretty nasty stress, only a modicum of training is needed for that,) when the flag flies, so to speak.

I don't mean to be condescending or rude, or present myself as some kind of wild west pistolero champion, but it really does worry me when I see these mentalities pop up. Its dangerous to perfectly innocent people, not to mention yourself, if you miss a ton of times, and it might also affect me personally by getting concealed/open carry banned.

[Irving]

I support Foxtrot on this one. Poncho Villa seems like a Manchurian candidate to me.

[Graves]

This is factually incorrect. I'd prefer people not go spreading factually incorrect information.

Do you have some sort of SD database you can share, you seem pretty sure of your "Facts". I know of an incident some time ago in a NY subway train that involved a .38spl snubie and multiple bg's being stopped (google Bernhard Goetz)

This cop may not have made it home had he been carrying a six shooter
http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-a...E43EA06A47B949
Hit the bg 22 times (17 wer COM) with .40 SXT's and he wasn't on any drugs.

As I said before, some of us don't want to be the person who finds out they did need more than six the hard way bc once you engage a bg you're committed to the end (in most cases imo). The chances of running into a two bit punk who will tuck tail once he sees your firearm are low as it is but that doesn't rule out the possibility of running into a psycho who wants to take others with him (or her).

[theGinsue]

Do you have some sort of SD database you can share,

This is not the first time I've seen the acronym "SD" used on this site. Can/will someone please explain to me what it means?

[Mtn.man]

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and just what up if you are attacked by a gang of 10 guys, they see you got 6 rounds so only maybe 2 dead 2 hit and the rest kill your ass, cause you didn't have mo rounds.. Peace through Supeior Firepower...

[GunTroll]

Stay On Target!

[Irving]

Most circumstances, an unloaded CCW would suffice. Even more, with a single round. But don't fool yourself, we are already preparing for unlikely odds.

I absolutely disagree with this. If you don't even need a bullet, then why would you be drawing the gun in the first place? I think that you agree with this as well.

Also, SD most likely means Self Defense.

[Mtn.man]

Barney only had 1 bullet..

[Pancho Villa]

That is insane. I have to admit, I've never read an encounter quite like that. (22) 40 caliber ranger sxt rounds, of which arguably, the suspect was up, running and a threat for more than a dozen of them. People often don't realize there is no thing as a guaranteed instant kill. People have been shot in the head with large caliber weapons and still managed to run a couple blocks (and some survive) People have been shot through the heart, and some still have a few seconds left before they pass out / die. The exception to this rule is the spinal cord, because if you completely sever it, the subject doesn't need to be dead to be completely incapacitated. But - there's no guaranteed shot that can without a doubt pull that off. These are rare situations, nobody is pretending they are common place, but it's nice to have coverage if they do happen.

On that note, the chance of ever having to draw your CCW (in a lifetime) under duress is incredibly low in the first place. I don't ever anticipate having to use mine, not even on the day I die - peacefully. But I still carry. So why do we carry? Because in the unlikely event something does happen at some point in our lifetime, we would like to be prepared, and have options. Most circumstances, an unloaded CCW would suffice. Even more, with a single round. But don't fool yourself, we are already preparing for unlikely odds. Expect the unexpected, and you can never be surprised in life.

Millions of possible armed encounter situations, some much more likely than others, but why not try to protect against the majority? No doubt, some of these situations are lethal no matter what, if your BG has a SRAW and your in a car, better start reciting the lords prayer, cause it's over man! Likely.. hell no. But anything is possible.

***edit to add***
I also have gotten medial training solely for the same reason. Nothing special, just CPR, first aid, and getting procedural advice from EMT's. Chance of needing or rendering medical assistance in a lifetime is higher than needing to use a CCW.

The best protection is not anticipating anything specific to happen to you. It's getting the basic tools (training, equipment, mindset) that you can always have with you as you go through life that can be applied to an extremely wide variety of bad situations. And hope that you never, ever, get the chance to use them.

Okay. I was incorrect. Everyone grab a Glock and those 32 round mags

No, but really, I see where you're coming from and I did not properly understand what you were saying the first time I read it. I know we're preparing for small-likelihood events anyway, but to me it does not seem a major factor, the capacity of your weapon, so long as you are familiar with and reasonably accurate with it.

More of a comfort zone thing, I guess. When I do carry I actually have a little Star BM - its a 1911-style single stack 9mm that holds 8 rounds. I guess I'm in trouble if I'm ever attacked by more than 1 or 2 bad guys, but I'm comfortable with taking those odds.

[theGinsue]

Also, SD most likely means Self Defense.

Oh yeah, duh! I should have been able to figure that one out. It was the weekend though and I take a break from having to actually think on the weekends.