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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico View Post
    Does anyone own a 308 sbr? I am pondering the idea of a 10.5" ar10.
    btw I am not looking to debate if a 10.5 barrel is a waste for the 308 cartridge... Yes it is, I don't know if it would cycle well but it sounds like a fun idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico View Post
    Does anyone own a 308 sbr? I am pondering the idea of a 10.5" ar10.
    btw I am not looking to debate if a 10.5 barrel is a waste for the 308 cartridge... Yes it is, I don't know if it would cycle well but it sounds like a fun idea.
    A guy at a machine gun shoot a few years back had a G3 with an 8 or 9 inch barrel. shot full auto just fine. Didn't stabilize bullets very well, left a ton of keyholes. PTR sold a pistol for awhile too. Never saw a AR 10 style pistol. DO IT .

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    Kinda like the Sig P716?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico View Post
    Does anyone own a 308 sbr? I am pondering the idea of a 10.5" ar10.
    btw I am not looking to debate if a 10.5 barrel is a waste for the 308 cartridge... Yes it is, I don't know if it would cycle well but it sounds like a fun idea.
    whether or not it would cycle would depend on a number of factors- given a fixed barrel length, factors for the gun itself would include: gas port location and size, BCG weight, buffer weight, chamber dimensions, and overall friction and sealing parameters.
    Besides the gun factors, there would be ammo parameters such as: bullet weight, powder charge, powder burning speed, OAL, case volume, etc...

    Could it be made to cycle? Absolutely! would it cycle with a variety of ammo? If proper choices were made on the barrel, then it's probably it would cycle between 140-180gr ammo without too much issues- as barrel length decreases, your margin for other parameters shrinks... build it for a particular ammo selection, and you can make it very reliable- how far you want to deviate from that will be the challenge with a pistol build.

    Of course, you could just over-gas it, and pound components at one end of the spectrum... but it would cycle (until something breaks)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gta_spec View Post
    Kinda like the Sig P716?
    Specifically, the CQB 12.5"

    They also released a 14.5 "Carbine."
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    Quote Originally Posted by gta_spec View Post
    Kinda like the Sig P716?
    Kinda but without the excessive price tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    Welcome to the wonderful world of engineering, everything becomes some level of compromise...
    Thanks for the write up. I agree that you can make just about anything run. If this pipe dream happens than I would like it to function with low cost surplus or cheap hunting ammo, basically 147-155gr but I will try a few 168s just for kicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMexico View Post
    Thanks for the write up. I agree that you can make just about anything run. If this pipe dream happens than I would like it to function with low cost surplus or cheap hunting ammo, basically 147-155gr but I will try a few 168s just for kicks
    somebody has done it:


    My point is, you can't just cut down a rifle gas-length barrel, it won't have enough gas pressure to cycle- AR pistol barrels have the gas hole further back than carbines.

    As I understand it, AR 308 barrels typically don't come with less than mid-length gas port... so carbine length may work for a 10.5" barrel, depending on gas port size. Will probably have to order from a custom barrel shop, unless you can find one undrilled and have it cut and drilled by Bert.
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    Like I posted on another forum that posted that letter: It would only be news if the letter said it wasn't the ugliest thing ever put onto an AR15.
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    Fished my ar10 pistol. Overall I am impressed and looking forward to shooting it soon. BTW I used a cmmg 12.5" barrel
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