Legalize Concealed Carry for Soldiers on Military Installations

[speedysst]

Military bases are not any more subject to shootings or crime than any other city. There are just as many people on a military base that I don't want armed with an assault rifle as there are civilians who I don't want to see armed with an assault rifle. If the shooter at Ft. Hood this past week had his M4, the situation would have been even worse.

[davsel]

Military bases are not any more subject to shootings or crime than any other city. There are just as many people on a military base that I don't want armed with an assault rifle as there are civilians who I don't want to see armed with an assault rifle. If the shooter at Ft. Hood this past week had his M4, the situation would have been even worse.

If the shooter at Ft. Hood this past week had his M4, AND SO DID EVERYONE ELSE ON BASE, the situation would have ended quickly, if it happened at all.

[Ronin13]

Why does this work so well in Israel? Don't they require all their soldiers to have their M4 with them at ALL times? A google search shows girls on the beach carrying these things around. I have never heard of a mass shooting over there by one of their soldiers and they require everyone to join the military after school.

Yep!

If the shooter at Ft. Hood this past week had his M4, AND SO DID EVERYONE ELSE ON BASE, the situation would have ended quickly, if it happened at all.

I think it would have been more of a deterrent than stopping the shooting shortly after beginning. These people are cowards. The moment they're met with armed resistance they give up or take their own life. If everyone had been armed, they would have chosen some place else.

[newracer]

Military bases are not any more subject to shootings or crime than any other city. There are just as many people on a military base that I don't want armed with an assault rifle as there are civilians who I don't want to see armed with an assault rifle. If the shooter at Ft. Hood this past week had his M4, the situation would have been even worse.

So you are in favor of an "assault riffle" ban? Are you sure you are on the correct forum? Secondly who said anything about arming everyone with rifles?

[275RLTW]

Service members aren't trusted with loaded weapons overseas either. What makes anyone think they will allow it here?

[brutal]

Service members aren't trusted with loaded weapons overseas either. What makes anyone think they will allow it here?

I expect you mean in Garrison?

Certainly it was a long time ago, in a land far, far away, and maybe the circumstances of handling classified material and gear warranted it, but when I was in DE and worked shift at a comm center, the repair tech on duty as radio operator had ready access to a rack of M16's and a basic load.

Back in the real world (1st ID Fort Riley), we never had access to ammunition unless it was during refresh or qual.

I'm on the fence about arming soldiers in garrison with M4's, but there's no compelling reason I can see to prohibit permitted CCW.

[Ronin13]

I expect you mean in Garrison?

Certainly it was a long time ago, in a land far, far away, and maybe the circumstances of handling classified material and gear warranted it, but when I was in DE and worked shift at a comm center, the repair tech on duty as radio operator had ready access to a rack of M16's and a basic load.

Back in the real world (1st ID Fort Riley), we never had access to ammunition unless it was during refresh or qual.

I'm on the fence about arming soldiers in garrison with M4's, but there's no compelling reason I can see to prohibit permitted CCW.

As per base commander's policy- every unit arms room had to have a basic loadout (2 magazines full) for 4 soldiers to pull guard duty in the event of power outage, emergency, or terrorist activity in the area. That was Ft. Drum, 2010.

[275RLTW]

As per base commander's policy- every unit arms room had to have a basic loadout (2 magazines full) for 4 soldiers to pull guard duty in the event of power outage, emergency, or terrorist activity in the area. That was Ft. Drum, 2010.

That was a good laugh...we all know how available the arms room guys are.

[brutal]

That was a good laugh...we all know how available the arms room guys are.

ROFL.

Ah, good times. Looking for the arms room guy when he's supposed to be issuing weapons for a SCHEDULED QUAL...

[brutal]

As per base commander's policy- every unit arms room had to have a basic loadout (2 magazines full) for 4 soldiers to pull guard duty in the event of power outage, emergency, or terrorist activity in the area. That was Ft. Drum, 2010.

Huh?

Since when is a basic M4 load not 210 rounds?

In 198x we only had steel 20 rd mags and IIRC, it was a 240rd loadout.