Refreshed to over 200. What do we get if we win?
Refreshed to over 200. What do we get if we win?
Stella - my best girl ever.
11/04/1994 - 12/23/2010
Don't wanna get shot by the police?
"Stop Resisting Arrest!"
OK, refreshed about 10 times then got tired of hearing: "Didi, your a good girl, now go back to sleep."
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
Ha!
I just set this up to refresh every 10 seconds.... It's now showing 250 views. We're gonna win this. I don't know why we even care, but damnit, WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS!
ETA: I bet Youtube will stop counting repeat views from the same IP address, if it hasn't already.
Edit again: Now it just says 301+ Views
Last edited by HoneyBadger; 04-13-2014 at 13:09.
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"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." -Frederic Bastiat
"I am a conservative. Quite possibly I am on the losing side; often I think so. Yet, out of a curious perversity I had rather lose with Socrates, let us say, than win with Lenin."
― Russell Kirk, Author of The Conservative Mind
Yep, showing maxed at 301+ for me...
If you spend a lot of time on YouTube, chances are you’ve seen countless recent videos that have had their view counts frozen at exactly 301. But why? Ever since the number began appearing last July, YouTubers have suspected everything from a glitch to a conspiracy.But according to Ted Hamilton, a product manager for YouTube analytics, the answer is far more arbitrary than that. Speaking with Numberphilehost Brady Haran, Hamilton offered the explanation in a video dedicated to the mystery.
“We get asked about it all the time,” he said. “I wouldn’t say that it causes angst, but I would certainly classify it as an annoyance.”
After a video reaches a certain number of views, Hamilton explained, YouTube tells the database to freeze the view count until YouTube can manually verify the correct count to protect against botting attempts—i.e. using automated computer processes to artificially inflate the number of views. YouTube view counts are initially tracked by servers near the end user. By looking at reports from these individual servers, YouTube engineers can detect suspicious patterns in the data.
“At some point the decision was made that we need to draw a line between what is innocuous and the database can handle and all of a sudden serious business,” he said. “The proportion was calculated to be at about 300.”
So why 301? Blame it on one YouTube programmer’s errant less-than-or-equal-to sign. The code tells the database to keep counting views up to and including the time when the count is equal to 300, allowing one final view to get counted before it freezes.
“Whoever wrote this code probably did not realize the magnitude of what they were doing,” said Hamilton. “It is now one of the idiosyncrasies of YouTube.”
When the Daily Dot reached out to YouTube last July after the freeze first appeared, a company spokesperson told us they were “working on it.” However, Hamilton’s explanation should clear up the confusion once and for all.
Update: In 2009, YouTube personality HappyCabbie also explained the 301 bug in an informative video. Watch it here.
I'm spamming the other Didi video too...
Best virus video ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_88RnoYS8As
/spamming
So many people are asking questions about "frozen views"
or "stuck views" that I decided to spend considerable time
investigating this issue.
First of all, I hope you're aware that YouTube has radically
changed the way it counts "views". Gone are the old days
when a simple "click" meant a "view". Lots of people were
falsely inflating their own "views" this way, or using "spam
bots" and "increasers" to artificially generate those "views",
trying to make their videos appear more popular than they
really were. This was written in YouTube's blog of Mar. 13:
http://www.youtube.com/blog?entry=s9Y00m...
But there were several things YouTube never said. And all
the discussion boards/threads/forums I have come across
haven't said a thing either, thus I may have some answers:
For the first 200-or-so views (sometimes it'll go up till 300),
"all is fair" -- meaning it does not matter how those "views"
were generated, cheating or otherwise. They're permanent.
After that, YouTube checks up on those views to see how
many were actually "legitimate". If YouTube feels that any
of them were suspicious, they'll "freeze" the view count till
the number of "real views" matches the 200 or 300.
What exactly is a "real view"? I have a feeling that it might
be something like 30 seconds or maybe a ΒΌ the length of
the video. Anything less than that is either not considered
a view, or perhaps it's a half-view.
Why 200 or 300? And why the small variations/differences
for those people stuck at 206, 217 or 301? YouTube won't
ever tell you (or anyone) this, but most ordinary videos get
1 "rating" for about every 200 to 300 views, while the extra
popular videos get 1 rating for about every 50 or 100. Thus
anything which "deviates" from those norms is considered
suspicious. (I'm pretty sure that YouTube probably has an
equivalent formula for "comments", but I do not know what
those minimums/maximums might be).
Also taken into consideration would be: 1 -- the number of
different computers that have watched your video, 2 -- how
many of those views were actually derived from the "same"
computers, and 3 -- the "pace" at which people clicked on
your video. If you have friends who legitimately watch your
video, but do it repeatedly maybe every few minutes/hours,
I believe that only some of those views count, and that the
others are set aside.
YouTube (and Google) have statistics for everything, more
than we'll ever know. Thus, I'm sure there are other factors
too -- like the "proportionality" of those views compared to
your previous video(s). In other words, if before all this you
were only getting 5 views a day, how can it be that all of a
sudden you're getting 200 if your total subscribers has not
gone up significantly?
All this helps to explain why your views are "stuck" at 301
while the person who uploaded Susan Boyle and "Britain's
Got Talent" had over 20,000,000 after just a couple weeks:
-- those numbers were not derived from "bots",
-- people watched for more than 30+ seconds,
-- the ratings are not "disproportionate" at all,
-- tons of computers have watched this video,
-- nobody reclicked after a few short seconds,
-- there's no way that Susan Boyle had that many "friends"
on YouTube trying to "inflate the views".
Well YouTube, maybe I liked the video so much that I decided to watch the first 10 seconds of it 100+ times today.