Reid calls supporters of cattle rancher "terrorists"

[Gman]

His family has been grazing that land before the Feds claimed it from the state of Nevada. Minor detail.

[blacklabel]

Dang, did you really miss the sarcasm and irony?

We're here to have a laugh, they're here to be serious.

[BushMasterBoy]

When the state punishes the people it is called criminal justice, when the people punish the state it is called revolution. Sometimes I think a coup d'etat would not be such a bad thing...headlines read "Obama flees to Kenya"

[XC700116]

That's not exactly the way it went. Setting the tone and comparing someone being a slave and growing turnips as "better life" is ridiculous. I don't have to agree with that, even if I oppose the the actions of the BLM. Being a slave serves a purpose for a fruitful life? How many hundreds of thousand of lives were lost to stop slavery. It ripped our country apart. I did call you an idiot but removed it 15 seconds later. I guess you forgot about the panties and latte comment. Apparently that wasn't emotional? Dude your every bit as emotional as anyone else on this board. For the record slave families were ripped apart and sold as property. I think your passive aggressive. Take it as you want.

Good lord, do you really think the Civil War was about slavery?

I'm not trying to derail this thread but this assertion drives me insane. Do some research and understand what the real roots of the Civil War were. Slavery only became a big issue in the Civil War when Lincoln figured out that a stance of abolishment would get the abolitionists to jump in on his side, at a time when the Union Army was losing or at best knocked back on their heels. The war was about secession, and Lincoln's unconstitutional bid to stop it. Abolishment of slavery was later thrown in the mix, but you won't hear it that way in any public school. History is written by the victors.

To the rest of your points, your understanding of statistics is drastically skewed as Aloha Shooter pointed out and illustrated. But I wholly agree with you and others, and I believe what Bundy was trying to articulate, in that being dependent on the govt handouts IS akin to slavery, just without the whips and forced labor, they are still 100% under the govt's thumb. Either way I agree saying it, and the way he tried to say it, at that point in time, was pretty short sighted in his struggle with the BLM. He handed them and the media everything they needed to pummel him and have 90% of the idiotic public turn any support they had for him against him. He shouldn't have tried to expound his struggle to more broad assertions just because he suddenly had a soap box to stand on.

Disclaimer: I am not a racist in any way shape or form, I just really hate the way facts and history get skewed because of political expediency. I also hate the way statistics get skewed the same way, which I'm sure to the leftists mind, because of the truth of those statistics doesn't serve their uses 100% of the time, makes me a racist.

[Ah Pook]

Good lord, do you really think the Civil War was about slavery?

+1

Almost lost the Union support too. Not like the movie.

[HoneyBadger]

There is no possible way this thread will be locked. None.

[UncleDave]

IBTL

[Great-Kazoo]

When the state punishes the people it is called criminal justice, when the people punish the state it is called revolution. Sometimes I think a coup d'etat would not be such a bad thing...headlines read "Obama flees to Kenya"

More like, Kenyan flees to Obama.

[roberth]

Good lord, do you really think the Civil War was about slavery?

I'm not trying to derail this thread but this assertion drives me insane. Do some research and understand what the real roots of the Civil War were. Slavery only became a big issue in the Civil War when Lincoln figured out that a stance of abolishment would get the abolitionists to jump in on his side, at a time when the Union Army was losing or at best knocked back on their heels. The war was about secession, and Lincoln's unconstitutional bid to stop it. Abolishment of slavery was later thrown in the mix, but you won't hear it that way in any public school. History is written by the victors.

Thank you.

[hollohas]

Zombie thread lives!

One of the guys in the wash just got 68 years.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/27...doff-case.html

A federal judge sentenced a Phoenix man Wednesday to 68 years in prison for his role as a gunman in a standoff that stopped federal agents from rounding up cattle near the Nevada ranch of anti-government activist Cliven Bundy three years ago.

Prosecutors had sought a maximum sentence of 73 years for Gregory Burleson after he was convicted of threatening and assaulting a federal officer, obstruction and traveling across state lines in aid of extortion.

But Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro in Las Vegas knocked five years off the recommendation, noting that the 53-year-old Burleson has gone blind, has serious health issues and was once an informant for the FBI.

Burleson's attorney, Terrence Jackson, said he will appeal.

'Scare and bullying tactics'

Navarro said she believed Burleson and other armed men used "scare and bullying tactics" to put federal agents in such mortal fear that they abandoned attempts to enforce court orders to round up Bundy cattle in April 2014

Navarro said the government employees suffered lasting psychological harm as a result of the encounter.

"Even though a shot was not fired," the judge declared, "the injuries were very real."

Feds got scared, man who helped "bully" them gets 68 years. Seems fair...