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Originally Posted by TFOGGER
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Huh? The CBI conducts a background check on the potential transfer. That's it. The form is a FEDERAL form required by the ATF, not a CBI form.The only thing that I got out of this was, the CBI really don't know what the hell to do. They don't know how to interpret the FFL form. It's pretty simple really re write the form so that there is a black and white interpretation.
It just goes to show the government can't handle the gun laws they got now. How the hell are they going to enforce any new ones? Thank God!
The disconnect is, with very little exception (Gunsmoke being one), all FFL holders run a background prior to selling the firearm; Gunsmoke sells it and then checks prior to transfering ownership. I STRONGLY disagree with how Gunsmoke runs their business and Rich Wyatt has gone cross with Tom Martino four times in the past year that I've listened to the show. After listening to the show, the issue revolves around Rich's belief that the question on Form 4473, 11a, which says "Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form?" Rich's complaint about it being a felony if she lied on the 4473 isn't valid either, which he says is a felony, but it is a FEDERAL felony, not a violation of state statute PER SE. One could argue a Fraud charge, but I personally haven't been successful in getting a District Attorney to charge it if it doesn't deal with question 11a. Those who "straw purchase" are in violation of state statute.
Frankly, good business practice would have you run the background check prior to selling the gun in order to stop any potential issues if the background is failed for any reason. Or, immediately refund the money without a question.
Last edited by OneGuy67; 12-20-2010 at 19:45.
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That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Foxtrot, can you take a look at FunkyMonkey1111's account? I have a "New Posts" button when I log in, but I think that he some how has an "Old Posts" button.
Makes me sad to see all those guys sticking up for that guy (Wyatt).
"There are no finger prints under water."
Ok has anyone looked at the gs site lately? 404 errors on almost every link. I just wanted to see the gallery.
Here you go.
ONLY $999.99 with purchase of CCW class!
"There are no finger prints under water."
wow how cheap! that looks like a wilson combat for only 999.00 GOTTA HAVE IT!!!!
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No good experiences with Wyatt that I am aware. Have heard too many bad ones. I generally hear the bad ones involving women.
Here is a thought. If Wyatt rang the gun up after selling it to the women and she couldn't pas the CBI check, I wonder if he has just sold a gun to someone who cannot buy one. Assuming the denial was for a felony (again aonly assuming) I wonder if he could be charged with a crime for selling to a felon. Afterall, he is now offering to sell the gun on commission, which presumes the women is the legal owner of the gun despite the fact she apparently cannot own one. -- things that make you go hmmm?????
I remember years ago when he ran for Jeffco sherrif. The errogance was amazing. I once had the pleasure of sitting in his CCW class prior to the shall issue CCW's. Waste of time and bad advice given. One person attending was encouraged to shoot an intruder in the home in the knee cap so you didn't get sued civilly for wrongful death. - (speechless).
A toughening of your mental hyde is your best defense.
Gunsmoke is one store I never go into. Before they moved I had quite a bit of custom pistolsmithing done there- not since.
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