Quote Originally Posted by MB888 View Post
Sorry Tristan, we just have to disagree, IMHO, unions only hold you back. They encourage you to demand MORE for the same if not less work. Pension and Benefits are nothing more than YOUR money that being managed and spent by the corporation for you. I'd rather manage my own money and destiny -- that's probably why I would never go back to the corporate world ever.

I have seen too many peers who wanted that false union security blanket, that they never moved on or exploit their best ability in the 'real' world.

Oh so true!!!

Look at I would say 75% of the top union leaders in almost every industry and they are fat lazy fucks wanting more from the company for less work.

WHY do you think the autos are in such a cluster fuck right now. the UAW is one of the biggest...they won't give up anything. they have full retirements. 60+ bucks an hour to drive a fucking forklift....

then you look at honda...who just so happens to be building a plant right here in the good ole United States of America (Baton rouge, LA I believe) and they are having a tough time with the economy but they aren't getting BILLIONS from the .gov or going into bankruptcy. know why? they pay their workers about 33% less (still good money to live on) and they keep the jobs in the US. take a look at your new american vehicle. roughly 80% of the parts are from canada and mexico. they may get assembled in the US (maybe). a lot of the parts, suppliers, and now the plants are going out of the country...so our US vehicles are no longer US...not supporting the US economy

take a step back and see what the damn union has really done for your wife. 25 years and she gets a $4 an hour raise... I would hunt for a new job when the time comes and just be happy I have a job at this point.