one nation under allah????????

[10mm-man]

I meant they share the same root. It is not something completely different like Hindu.
Same God, different rules vs different Gods different rules.

Except that their God permits, Pedophile's, rapist,murders??? Were as Christians GOD does not. Maybe?

[lex137]

Only one way to say the pledge, in English and with all the original words period!!!

[Ronin13]

I meant they share the same root. It is not something completely different like Hindu.
Same God, different rules vs different Gods different rules.

My God doesn't advocate the murder of innocent civilians in the name of "Holy War." My God doesn't put justice in man's hands to decapitate their foes so they "cannot find their way to heaven," he'd rather be the final judge. I do not have the same God as these low-life filth.

[bellavite1]

Hmmm, I believe that when the founding fathers used the term "God" in our countries originating documents it was in a generic manner meaning that god represented a higher power, whatever that may be to whomever.. similar to the Freemasons that require that you believe in a "God" yet that god is not defined in any way.

In the spirit of the founding fathers "In God We Trust" refers to the idea that there is an entity that exists that is greater than any single man himself. This was a response to the idea that humans such as monarchs and military despots had the right and the ability to somehow reign supreme over their subjects.

The pledge of allegiance was modified in the 50's to add the God phrase which at that time was a direct reference to "God" as in the christian/catholic church and was a response to growing communist influence by our congressional leaders. Unfortunately these days people now take the term "God" literally as being a direct reference to the christian/catholic god when it was never meant to be. To those that believe "God" means the christian/catholic deity.. or any other for that matter, you are wrong.

The original pledge:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Modified in the 1920's:
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Modified in the 50's:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Interestingly the original pledge as enacted when drafted required a military salute to the flag prior to the beginning of the recitation and then extending the the arm to point at the flag at the words "to the flag". During WW2 the change was made to simply placing your hand over your heart as it resembled the Nazi salute.

Thank you!
And now...brace yourself for the stoning!

[rockhound]

Hmmm, I believe that when the founding fathers used the term "God" in our countries originating documents it was in a generic manner meaning that god represented a higher power, whatever that may be to whomever.. similar to the Freemasons that require that you believe in a "God" yet that god is not defined in any way.

In the spirit of the founding fathers "In God We Trust" refers to the idea that there is an entity that exists that is greater than any single man himself. This was a response to the idea that humans such as monarchs and military despots had the right and the ability to somehow reign supreme over their subjects.

ding ding ding, you then have just made my case.

if the word God in the pledge is to mean your own personal god and not one in particular i am cool with that, say the pledge and pledge to any god you want in your heart. when they name a specific god that is where they over step their bounds. The, as you put it, generic word god is fine, but that is not what they did. They prescribed a specific god "allah" and required the children to pledge allegiance to that particular god.

To ask that my child pledge allegiance to any god that is not of their choosing is wrong.........

[roberth]

I meant they share the same root. It is not something completely different like Hindu.
Same God, different rules vs different Gods different rules.

OK, I understand what you mean.

Maybe the same root idea of God. There are numerous similarities in the religions of the world, most religions are about peace and harmony, Islam is about subjugation and murder.

[RblDiver]

Pretty sure this was done last year too (or a few years ago, or something, but I remember Rocky being in the news for it in the past).

[Ah Pook]

Thank you!
And now...brace yourself for the stoning!

There is always a stoning.

We had to be more Godly then those commie Russians.

That said, sounds like the principle is an idiot.

[funkymonkey1111]

Hmmm, I believe that when the founding fathers used the term "God" in our countries originating documents it was in a generic manner meaning that god represented a higher power, whatever that may be to whomever.

how did you arrive at this belief?

[Kraven251]

just more bullshit to get press, and desensitize