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    Default disarm federal agencies that are not military, what an idea

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    Bundy aftermath: Utah lawmaker moves to disarm BLM, IRS, says ‘They’re not paramilitary units’

    Rep. Chris Stewart of Utah, concerned about the armed agents that surrounded Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s property, introduced a bill to cut funding for any “paramilitary units” that work for the Bureau of Land Management, the Internal Revenue Service and other federal regulatory agencies.
    “There are lots of people who are really concerned when the BLM shows up with its own SWAT team,” he said on the House floor on Tuesday, the Salt Lake Tribune reported. “They’re regulatory agencies. They’re not paramilitary units, and I think that concerns a lot of us.”
    Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.

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    They'll take the funding and direct it towards building a stronger DHS. This is a no win situation.

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    I'd say it would be a good thing. Also cutting back on budgets for APCs for a sheriffs department. The national guard has plenty of capable vehicles to make it into disaster areas.
    while were at it we should eliminate wasteful spending on entitlement programs. And reform the IRS to a more streamlined operation that people can make sense of.


    wait....yep, none of that will happen.
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    I knew this was a problem when I saw a National Park Service humvee at the Gateway Arch in St. Louis. Even they had no use for it and were using it to block a sidewalk. But if a kid was seen with a squirt gun they would have leapt into action.

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    there is no reason for these groups to be armed.
    Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.

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    Or... Like after hurricane Katrina, hire Blackwater and use private armed security to break all kinds of people's rights. That way big brother has no involvement and the contractor is above the law with authority to use deadly force and ability to deny involvement of unauthorized use of force.

    The real question is... if you take up arms against a private security firm breaking your Constitutional Rights, are you liable for their death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey View Post
    Or... Like after hurricane Katrina, hire Blackwater and use private armed security to break all kinds of people's rights. That way big brother has no involvement and the contractor is above the law with authority to use deadly force and ability to deny involvement of unauthorized use of force.

    The real question is... if you take up arms against a private security firm breaking your Constitutional Rights, are you liable for their death?
    Liable...or can you be charged with a crime...two different things.
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    The idea has always been that if/when a gov agency is not able to handle a situation the National Guard was who was called at the behest of the Govenor of the state. Kent state was an example of this. That all changed with Waco.
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    These agencies will not be disarmed... next topic.
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    I don't think BLM or HHS should have SWAT teams but I also disagree with the idea of disarming all agencies. Some (repeat, some) of the Park Service and Border Patrol have very difficult situations and should have arms for personal defense or varmint control. IRS should have to go through the local sheriff's department for armed enforcement IMO although I'm not sure what they'd do in a case like Al Capone's Chicago. Then again, the only things I like about Chicago are the pizza, hot dogs, and Sean Connery's line in The Untouchables.

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