Employment discrimination question - is this legal?

[Dave_L]

Not so much.

I apologize. My statement may have been too broad. I just don't see why we'd pick on vets getting a little boost.

[tmleadr03]

So this means I can't even apply for it, because I'm not a veteran? That sucks. Just don't seem right.....

Vets can suck it.

[stoner01]

Vets can suck it.

Yeah what that guy said....... Wait wut

[10mm-man]

Vets can suck it.

Mostly just you! Da'am Jarheads I tell ya.....

[10mm-man]

Mostly just you! Da'am Jarheads I tell ya.....

Apparently you haven't seen how hard it is to get any Civil Service job lately.... like impossible.

There are tons listed, and if you aren't already a civil servant you can't apply.

After talking personally to the SBA Western States Manager, the reason is the .gov isn't hiring is due to budget. So, if you need somebody in your .gov job, you have to lure away someone from their current .gov job. That way there in no net gain of Civil Servants. The $$ being offered is almost always a move up; substantially. This mean the .gov is spending more $$ but not adding additional jobs.

Also, if you have a Secret clearance you can get big $$. General Dynamics is hiring a Closed Circuit Security officer at $65k if you have a Secret clearance. The same job without is $18k at other employers.

So here is a question; I got a Secret clearance in the Corps, does it never go away, and you always have it? Or do I need to do something to maintain it?

So this means I can't even apply for it, because I'm not a veteran? That sucks. Just don't seem right.....

I know a recruiter you can call; do the time in the suck, and you to can apply for those jobs. Of course if you can't get in i could see how that might not seem fair.

Also, I remember getting out of the Corps wishing I had four years experience somewhere else, or a degree in exchange for the years served. Every job i looked for wanted a degree, and/or experience. I quickly found out "LIFE ISN'T FAIR" - Suck it up!

[USMC_5-Echo]

So here is a question; I got a Secret clearance in the Corps, does it never go away, and you always have it? Or do I need to do something to maintain it?

Unless you got out of the Corps in the last couple of years it has expired. You have to certify that you are still doing a job that requires the clearance every couple of years. If I remember correctly I believe the TS is every 5 years and a Secret is 10 years, but I've had to renew my Secret several times over the last 6 for my current job.

[DocMedic]

SC is only good for 5 Years then u need to renew

[Aloha_Shooter]

So this means I can't even apply for it, because I'm not a veteran? That sucks. Just don't seem right.....

If the position is open only under VRA, yes, that means you're ineligible to apply for the position. VRA and Vet Preferences are ways the government tries to provide opportunities for those who served -- especially the thousands now getting forced out under the military downsizing after the huge build-up to deal with Afghanistan and Iraq.

What doesn't seem right are tens of thousands being pushed out in the downsizing when we're just going to have to build back up in a few years -- especially since we will lose all that corporate knowledge. I know a guy who got his separation orders while in Iraq, leaving him about 2 weeks after returning to base in Germany to outprocess and find a home and job back stateside -- all of this in December because he had to be out by the end of the calendar year. Nothing wrong with his record, he was just in a bad year group and didn't walk high enough above the water. When we get a Chief Executive who doesn't have his head up his nether regions and ramp back up in 5 years, we're going to be bitching and moaning about how there's a dearth of seasoned people to mentor all the newbs.

[HoneyBadger]

... When we get a Chief Executive who doesn't have his head up his nether regions and ramp back up in 5 years, we're going to be bitching and moaning about how there's a dearth of seasoned people to mentor all the newbs.

Yep.

Vets can suck it.

Yep.

[brutal]

If the position is open only under VRA, yes, that means you're ineligible to apply for the position. VRA and Vet Preferences are ways the government tries to provide opportunities for those who served -- especially the thousands now getting forced out under the military downsizing after the huge build-up to deal with Afghanistan and Iraq.

What doesn't seem right are tens of thousands being pushed out in the downsizing when we're just going to have to build back up in a few years -- especially since we will lose all that corporate knowledge. I know a guy who got his separation orders while in Iraq, leaving him about 2 weeks after returning to base in Germany to outprocess and find a home and job back stateside -- all of this in December because he had to be out by the end of the calendar year. Nothing wrong with his record, he was just in a bad year group and didn't walk high enough above the water. When we get a Chief Executive who doesn't have his head up his nether regions and ramp back up in 5 years, we're going to be bitching and moaning about how there's a dearth of seasoned people to mentor all the newbs.

At the same time they're fighting to allow illegals to enlist as a pathway to citizenship.


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