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    Default HB1229 stupidity strikes again.....

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    Colorado’s controversial new gun law requiring a background check for any transfer of a firearm has left one woman unarmed.Now she’s frustrated that her weapon, taken by police for safekeeping after a car accident, isn’t being returned.
    Sara Warren said Fort Collins police took her Ruger SR9, which she uses for personal protection in her job as a maid when visiting clients’ homes, after an accident required her to be transported to the hospital.
    The police want to give it back, but a new universal background check law passed last year amid much controversy requires a Federal Firearms License background check.
    Fort Collins police don’t have an FFL holder on staff.
    “We had an opinion from our city attorney and district attorney not to return firearms without a (Federal Firearms License) check, and we don’t have an FFL person in our office,” Fort Collins deputy chief Jim Szakmeister told the Loveland Reporter Herald.
    Warren said she’s been in touch with the police repeatedly about getting her gun back, but was given no options, the paper reported. She said she’s turned down jobs because she doesn’t feel safe entering strangers’ homes without protection.




    “I’m a lawful citizen,” she told the Reporter Herald. “I use my gun legally. I need my gun. This is ridiculous to me. There are people out there who can’t get their guns back. They haven’t done anything wrong.”The background check law, and another that limits the size of ammunition magazines, spurred gun owners to recall two Democratic state senators who supported them last year. Another resigned rather than face a recall.
    Most of Colorado’s elected sheriffs filed suit against the state to overturn the laws, which they say are either unenforceable or place too much of a burden on law-abiding gun owners.
    “I’m told there are other people in this situation,” Sheriff Justin Smith told the Reporter Herald, referring to Warren’s inability to get her gun back. “It’s terrible when a law-abiding citizen gets caught up in something like this and it causes them to lose faith in their government.”
    The police have hit on a one-time solution and are arranging for Warren and others in a similar situation to meet officers at a local outdoor store with an FFL license. Szakmeister told the newspaper he’s not sure who will pay for the background checks.
    “We’re working on a long-term solution,” he said. “The greatest solution would be for the legislators to put in a police exemption. Otherwise we’re probably going to have to get an FFL and find someone in the office willing to work in that capacity.”

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    Just a thought, is the police dept. also in violation of the law, as it is written, by taking prossession of the firearm in the first place ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    Just a thought, is the police dept. also in violation of the law by taking prossession of the firearm in the first place ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    Just a thought, is the police dept. also in violation of the law, as it is written, by taking prossession of the firearm in the first place ?
    She was transported to the hospital. I assume she had it on her because weapons, even knives, arent allowed on the bus. It is standard practice to place weapons in safe keeping for folks being transported by medical. Now the whole not getting it back is BS

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    Glad it wasn't a gun with >15rd magazine or she'd really be screwed. Thank you State of Colorado, now where's my bong? [eyes roll]
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    There needs to be a public outcry from 2A supporters and pressure needs to be applied until they give it back to her. That is BS!

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    Extremely simple solution. Go to an FFL. Heck, I'll pay her fee.


    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Glad it wasn't a gun with >15rd magazine or she'd really be screwed. Thank you State of Colorado, now where's my bong? [eyes roll]
    This is a good question though. Although I suppose that they could just give the mags back to her, as they do not require a transfer, and she'd still be stuck in the same situation with the gun. I often wonder how this law will effect insurance companies from taking possession of firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    Glad it wasn't a gun with >15rd magazine or she'd really be screwed. Thank you State of Colorado, now where's my bong? [eyes roll]
    I'm pretty sure the standard magazines are 17rds!

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    This blows my mind. The police can't run a background check.....oh wait. There's supposed to be a fee. I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilpinGuy View Post
    This blows my mind. The police can't run a background check.....oh wait. There's supposed to be a fee. I see.
    I've got friends on the Fort Collins PD. They've said that if a cop is involved in a shooting, and his gun is impounded, once he's cleared, he has to pass a BGC for him to have his gun reissued. I believe the same applies for when he passes rifle qualification and is issued an AR - must pass a BGC. They're against all of the new laws as much as we are.
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