Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) Article on Dudley Brown/NAGR

[ghettodub]

What I can agree with from the article, is that Dudley is a divisive asshole. I was a member of RMGO for the first and last time last year.

Agreed there. Can't stand him... I would love to support RMGO, but I just can't...

[XC700116]

It was, and I'm not....you brought up Washington and a handgun registry, but outside the same registry that already exists in every state via the 4473 everyone fills out for new firearms I have never heard of this.....private party sales aren't traced, and anyone who believes that being asked personal info and what gun they are buying isn't a gun database is a fool. I do not agree with everything Mr. Brown does, nor do I agree with everything Mr. Gottleib does, nor anyone for that matter. The one thing I do believe is that we should not keep agreeing to our rights being infringed. If there is one thing we can say history has taught us (and this can be recent history, for you short term non reading types), it is that once we give ground we never get it back. So meet them halfway on the hopes that it will lead to future trials and reversals....I'd prefer a more aggressive move and go for the check mate while there are still enough pieces on the board for a fair fight.

I'm not saying Gottleib is the greatest thing since sliced bread either, just saying that in this case the vitriol is/was grossly misplaced since it was essentially all designed to get the same idiots that dreamed this crap up to kill it, and it apparently worked or at least contributed to it, that article was from last year (the one Zundflodge posted) That's all really, well that and my obvious disdain for Dudley and his tactics that I only really learned to appreciate via being an RMGO member.

And I disagree that "once we lose ground we never get it back" Do you not remember the 1994 AWB? and we got that back. There's been MANY successes in recent years of getting it back and while the last 2 years has been difficult at best, it's not the end of the world either. It's just another battle in the war. I do agree we need to stop playing defense though and start going on the offense. Start pushing for things for our side of the equation, but no matter how hard we try, when some nutjob decides to shoot up an elementary school, the public knee jerk sheep reaction and thereby the reaction of the gun grabbers seeing it as opportunity, is going to put us back on our heels for a time, thankfully it also helps galvanize gun owners. That's why IMO it's so egregious what Dudley does, he uses it as a time to attack people and use it to make money, when we really all need to be circling the wagons.

[Bailey Guns]

We didn't get the 94 AWB back. The 10 year sunset was written into the law.

[HoneyBadger]

What I can agree with from the article, is that Dudley is a divisive asshole. I was a member of RMGO for the first and last time last year.

I honestly believe that everything Dudley does is to line his pockets. Political turmoil? Let me beg for donations. What happens when the turmoil is over and the donations dry up? Create more turmoil, beg for donations. Rinse, repeat et al.

[SamuraiCO]

We didn't get the 94 AWB back. The 10 year sunset was written into the law.

Since Repub controlled both houses and presidency it died. Dems have been trying to resurrect but opted for health care.

[SamuraiCO]

I do like Gottlieb's approach. It really calls the Dems if they reject this shows they want registration as a middle step to confiscation with their arguments for why a background check is necessary exposes their lies.

I like to think of this as colon cleanse vs poison pill cause the anti's so full of s###

[funkymonkey1111]

Just saw a tweet that Gottlieb was on "gun talk" today specifically to talk about Dudley.