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    Quote Originally Posted by trot View Post
    It doesn't look good for Makita. But evidence needs to be LEGALLY collected, and not POLITICALLY motivated.


    Quote Originally Posted by trot View Post
    I hate that I can't get line breaks. If it's not clear, I'm saying if this actually is Text Messages, you've got an almost 100% chance that they were not legally obtained, and someone might have installed some shit on his phone unless we are talking about S.O. owned phone. My best guess is that they are instant messages on a computer (nothing to do with a phone).
    And this is my point. The fact that the MEDIA got ANY messages, computer or phone, BEFORE a legal investigation is highly suspicious. Am I wrong when I think the media has zero legal access to SO computers? Or SO phones? Today the media published portions of what they describe as personal emails. How in the hell are they getting this stuff? True or not, I seriously question the legality of how all the messages were obtained.

    Did a Sheriff office employee take them from the Sheriff's computer or phone? Was it one of the complainants? They accuse him of inappropriate discipline. This is all conjecture of course, but if it was one of them that is leaking all these documents, and I can't think of anyone else with more of a motive than them....then unauthorized access of your boss's computer is certainly grounds for disciplinary action.

    I believe public officials should be held accountable. And I believe employees, public or private, have a right to bring allegations against their employees for wrong doing. However, due process needs to be king. If these documents were obtained illegally than those people responsible need to be charged. The people of El Paso County certainly have the right to know if their elected officials are up to no good. But all the people with a beef against the Sheriff should have filed the complaint and let the legal process discover the documents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Giv View Post
    Such a shame. I got behind Maketa in the past and this is sad to read about.
    Pretty much how I feel. What a damned shame.

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    Colorado wiretapping laws allow a conversation to be recorded as long as one (1) person in the conversation is aware it is being recorded.

    Unlike many other states, not all parties to a conversation need to know it's being recorded.

    There's also nothing illegal about sharing recordings someone made legally. I'm guessing that goes for computer conversations as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gos View Post
    Colorado wiretapping laws allow a conversation to be recorded as long as one (1) person in the conversation is aware it is being recorded.

    Unlike many other states, not all parties to a conversation need to know it's being recorded.

    There's also nothing illegal about sharing recordings someone made legally. I'm guessing that goes for computer conversations as well.
    If it is the girls who released the documents, this might certainly apply. But so far all three are denying it as well so I have a hard time believing it was them.

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    If it's on a work computer (and in this case a public employee's computer) there are many people within the organization who could easily access the info as the info would be stored on the organization's servers. And, there is little expectation of privacy on a public employee's computer. He/they/everyone should know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    If it's on a work computer (and in this case a public employee's computer) there are many people within the organization who could easily access the info as the info would be stored on the organization's servers. And, there is little expectation of privacy on a public employee's computer. He/they/everyone should know that.
    Everyone does know that so that makes me wonder if it was his work computer or not. But the emails could be from anywhere. However the picture the media keeps showing of him obviously came from his phone. Maybe he emailed it to the girl and maybe he did so with his work email, in which case it would end up on the server anyway. But they say it's a text and that makes the most sense to me. People take selfies and send texts, not emails...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Everyone does know that so that makes me wonder if it was his work computer or not. But the emails could be from anywhere. However the picture the media keeps showing of him obviously came from his phone. Maybe he emailed it to the girl and maybe he did so with his work email, in which case it would end up on the server anyway. But they say it's a text and that makes the most sense to me. People take selfies and send texts, not emails...
    Reread the article:

    In addition to the complaints, The Gazette obtained more than 500 emails and text messages dating to 2008 between Maketa and Cardarelle and Huntz.

    The messages show Maketa had sexually explicit conversations with Cardarelle, calling her his "soul mate."

    The messages show Maketa gave Huntz advice on how she could avoid punishment for misconduct at work.

    "I think often about touching kissing and licking every inch of your amazing body," said a message dated 1:48 a.m. Jan. 4, 2009, from Maketa's phone number that is typical of the exchanges with Cardarelle.
    An independent digital forensics expert confirmed that the messages obtained by The Gazette originated from Cardarelle's email account on county computer servers.

    Read more at http://gazette.com/accusations-cloud...rLJYJ7sklRm.99
    The Republican candidate, who is expected to replace Maketa, is Fountain Police Deputy Chief Bill Elder, who has vowed to do a forensic audit of the office budget.

    Maketa may feel forced to keep the women in their current jobs, said Moore, who was shown the emails. He noted the emails and texts between Cardarelle and Maketa's accounts, obtained by The Gazette, had been stored in a folder on Cardarelle's work computer.
    I'm all for giving Maketa an opportunity to explain himself. But at a minimum this casts serious doubts about his integrity, judgment and leadership abilities.
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    At this point, i'm willing to bet the members of this forum have done more research and investigation into the matter than any media outlet or "authority" figure, but it doesn't matter, it's newsworthy, and a chance to ruin a Republican Sheriff's career.

    Disclaimer: IF the accusations are true, Mr. Maketa made his bed, as much as it bothers me. I really looked up to him as a Sheriff and politician. If you can't trust him, who can you trust?

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    The Springs news channels are reporting that they have emails between maketa and the comptroller from 2008 on.

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    Long time ago I ran those mail servers, the SO uses county email and at the time we kept only 30 days backup to reduce the FOIA search scopes. We did not purge from boxes nor did we limit pat files so a user could keep everything for ever if they wanted and it would be discoverable. I don't think any employment contracts would play in except to speak of acceptable use. Systems do not below to shr office.

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